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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Fairbrother <peter@tsto.co.uk> Newsgroups: rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: Re: Those Cheap Diamond Inserts Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:17:05 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <va2j2h$3f1in$1@dont-email.me> References: <v86l6j$528m$1@dont-email.me> <v88qrr$k776$1@dont-email.me> <m1y15jjsfp.fsf@void.com> <v8b9dd$14o0o$1@dont-email.me> <m18qxiblm5.fsf@void.com> <v9u22n$2ihff$1@dont-email.me> <upd8cj5mj8dianepaeltns33vu62h3spt2@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:17:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="eee93685c81aa0aab4946808f7768c1b"; logging-data="3638871"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VN2U3L86tIIjgEJp/y/BT4j6iWmAp0fc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UfobUHQlIdIPebdbA9B4YsV4Xyk= In-Reply-To: <upd8cj5mj8dianepaeltns33vu62h3spt2@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2778 On 20/08/2024 07:50, Charlie+ wrote: [...] > Only hobby level now.. > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115334715488?_nkw=diamond+inserts+carbide+lathe&itmmeta=01J5Q723XNA0GREWTN8RFZEQK2&hash=item1ada7c1860:g:YyUAAOSwUtJiUKWN&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnC8gu8jBQODZUzjY6nfSpuZas%2FJzGcWIYLgG5EPfxVgG0wH1c4QdrYrUHqD4z98NSE8atbz28SHAAsTTB%2FvXsdw1KSXcN7%2Bx6cwyg%2FcKXwvDq3eEqXZbpx%2Bzxtc0f0%2Fp0BsyoIUtnlZlJQI86p6TyhETkaZsGuuwYw1Ayo2CHAORe6WE1WiaDElO8xogeQY1mItmsxVxjRLhavW15vEW5hMGkyR8srWzmxrGq4dX%2B9yZ23zhsDDiiDdifsQ%2Bk8r7IRPefZ9T%2FppdLbpKF%2FwpjM%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_S-iOetZA Those are PCD polycrystalline diamond tipped inserts. Diamond crystals in a cobalt alloy matrix. For very hard materials sometimes, but far more often for extreme wear resistance. > It says for non ferrous [..] The carbon in the diamond dissolves in iron and steel (and nickel alloys), so they don't last long on steel. You can use CBN cubic boron nitride on steel etc for longer life, about the same price. Hobby level chaps (and most small-batch pros, indeed most pros) should generally stick to HSS or carbide, unless they are doing something unusual. > Can they be touched up if/when the edge goes? No. Carbide inserts can sometimes be touched up with diamond (though it's usually not worth doing unless you want something special), but not PCD or CBN. > I know its only a single but looks uncheap to me! C+ Last time I bought any they were £20-odd each, and that was years ago. Peter Fairbrother