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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:25:39 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 20 Message-ID: <va31ko$3havl$1@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <Aj67svgBqlC6ubyAZ01SM3EN5mc@jntp> <9ef8dd8a-69be-44e2-bcf6-ea9c1fb30e21@att.net> <LHtSphVaxvF9i9lsFtvEfbB4PS8@jntp> <92189533-0c1f-4532-816f-564651cc8bf7@att.net> <zzRMVwrDvZCAHeIta8vMnBBxp8E@jntp> <155cdc8a628d47be1632791227bccf99425b1d5e@i2pn2.org> <en_fjxuLKegQPxOwdC8lXsKVbbI@jntp> <b6f3db1f122addc847d551f14766c9bc090a2d39@i2pn2.org> <va1ra4$3bld7$1@dont-email.me> <cB1y4KsEseyrfvMXAJJ2TijMcX4@jntp> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:25:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b62d911f8037ccb2d638782bbebed3a6"; logging-data="3714037"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/SsETUOJCSC1jhH4oPHyC+ZymdFzm7as0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:LcQ/sI8wqCQ6ULuvDVRCTuCequc= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 2206 WM explained : > Le 20/08/2024 � 12:31, FromTheRafters a �crit : >> on 8/19/2024, Richard Damon supposed : > >>> You can not derive a first number > 0 in any of the Number System that we >>> have been talking about, Unit Fractions, Rationals or Reals, so you can't >>> claim it to exist. >> >> Not in their natural ordering. > > Dark numbers have no discernible order. It is impossible to find the smallest > unit fraction or the next one or the next one. It is only possible to prove > that NUF(x) grows by 1 at every unit fraction. It starts from 0. > > Regards, WM Normally, the unit fractions are listed in the sequence one over one, one over two, one over three etcetera. There is a first but no last. Now you have started from the wrong 'end' and are metaphorically pushing a rope.