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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:31:02 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 82 Message-ID: <va453m$3p3aa$4@dont-email.me> References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <liduroFtbroU2@mid.individual.net> <v9sh1e$2apq2$3@dont-email.me> <lig7svF8jpgU10@mid.individual.net> <v9vfe6$2qll6$10@dont-email.me> <liirfvFlcbgU4@mid.individual.net> <va1dn4$38k24$5@dont-email.me> <va1dti$38k24$6@dont-email.me> <lilfqlF2nlqU6@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="04f9e1a98322e0cc740ba39698fe4a67"; logging-data="3968330"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+uhpNLcDdwUR2MNmsAENJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:e9N1xMiQ/halTzqFWDxwzp0PuQo= In-Reply-To: <lilfqlF2nlqU6@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4402 Le 21/08/2024 à 08:30, Thomas Heger a écrit : > Am Dienstag000020, 20.08.2024 um 08:42 schrieb Python: >> Le 20/08/2024 à 08:39, Python a écrit : >>> Le 20/08/2024 à 08:30, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>>> Am Montag000019, 19.08.2024 um 14:56 schrieb Python: >>>> ... >>>>>> There is also no equation, which could eventually be interpreted >>>>>> as delay calculation. >>>>> >>>>> As I've shown there is. A single step from the provided equations >>>>> leads to t_A = t_B - (AB)/c >>>>> >>>>>> Delay for a signal from A->B in distance x would be: >>>>>> >>>>>> x=c*t => delay (A->B)= x/c >>>>>> >>>>>> Extremely simple, isn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Extremely stupid insteed x=c*t is not generally true. x/c is >>>>> not at all the delay your asking for. (AB)/c is such a delay. >>>> >>>> Einstein defined two coordinate systems (K and k). >>>> >>>> System k was placed with its center upon the axis of x of system K. >>>> >>>> So the value 'x' is a coordinate in respect to system K with >>>> distance |x| to system K's center. >>>> >>>> Now I use this setting and place A in the center of K and B in the >>>> center of k. >>>> >>>> So: the distance from A to B is x. >>>> >>>> Well, yes, this was a little bad, because I had to explain it in the >>>> first place, before I could use this setting. >>> >>> What you "explain" is, again, something you made up out of nothing. >>> >>> Systems K and k are even defined yet in paragraph 2. >>> >>> It makes basically no sense to put the center of K at A and the >>> center of k at B. K and k are in relative motion while clock-A >>> and clock-B are mutually at rest. So your "setting" is setting >>> v to 0. >> >> Addendum : "the distance from A to B is x": this is wrong too. >> x is the coordinate of an event in system K, it is not, in >> general, the distance between origins of K and k. > > 'x' is a generic coordinate in system K and means a distance from the > center of K to a point on the x-axis. > > Since system k was placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the > center of k, the distance from A to B would actually be x. Systems k and K are not even mentioned in part I.2. So "system k was placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k" is a figment of your imagination in no way related to A.E. article. > But, of course, your critique is valid and you should not use generic > variables for special purposes. > > Therefore I made already the proposal to call the distance from A to B 'd'. AB, (AB) or \overbar(AB) make the job for every one but you. > BTW: x was not meant as coordinate of an event, because system K and k > were defined as Euclidian coordinate systems. > Such a coordinate system does not contain time in any way, hence cannot > address events. k and K are defined as 4-D dimensional systems with coordinates x, y, z, t and epsilon, nu, eta, tau. BOTH include a time coordinate so BOTH are representing EVENTS. "does not contain time in any way" ? How can you be so clueless ??? Or is it deliberates lies ???