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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: New VSI post on Youtube Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:18:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <va4lv6$3rpl4$1@dont-email.me> References: <v9ehs5$3mqbj$1@dont-email.me> <v9idff$f9k4$1@dont-email.me> <v9iqln$hrs3$1@dont-email.me> <v9iro6$fql6$1@dont-email.me> <66bcf876$0$717$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <66bcfbe3$0$717$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <v9kske$uqhh$2@dont-email.me> <va04hl$2viks$2@dont-email.me> <66c397f6$0$716$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <va2280$3cdrf$3@dont-email.me> <va28d7$3cunf$3@dont-email.me> <va2kb4$3f8oq$2@dont-email.me> <va2np6$3f2e6$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:18:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6040447a229c0a789cfde0015532b4de"; logging-data="4056740"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VyQTtUhUAqBnABJo57a+uxM5v/+Hx1/M=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ts1VTKLw/3T58m2G3HquvNvrVfE= Bytes: 3107 On 2024-08-20, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote: > On 8/20/2024 1:38 PM, Simon Clubley wrote: >> >> You forgot about InputStreamReader() to turn an InputStream into a Reader. :-) > > There are InputStreamReader to convert from InputStream to Reader and > OutputStreamWriter to convert from OutputStream to Writer. > > And they are actually used, because some API's has classes that only has > getInputStream()/getOutputStream() methods and not > getReader()/getWriter() methods. > > All follow the model. > >> After all, why miss the opportunity to have two parallel sets of APIs >> (byte versus character) instead of just the one API ? :-) >> >> Goodness knows why they didn't just add something like String's getBytes() >> method to the character APIs or add character support to the byte APIs... > > Because InputStream/OutputStream and Reader/Writer are fundamentally > different. > I may not have stated that clearly enough. The character model is built in top of a byte model, with character-specific knowledge in the character classes. The traditional Java way to add this additional functionality is to extend a class in a subclass and implement the additional functionality in the subclass. I am having a hard time seeing why they didn't just extend the byte I/O classes in this way to implement additional character functionality so that both character and byte I/O directly uses an InputStream (and likewise for an OutputStream). There should be no need for a character-specific Reader concept or an InputStreamReader() converter. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.