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On 21/08/2024 5:57 pm, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> On 8/21/24 01:08, john larkin wrote:
> [...]
>> I had a friend who worked for an aerospace company. The engineering
>> building had no lab space, because management assumed that engineers
>> just did paperwork.
> [...]
> 
> Amazing. I wouldn't have believed that there could be such a
> disconnect between a management and the things they pretend to
> manage.

Then you haven't worked in industry in the UK.

There were engineering managers who had been engineers - or at least 
knew enough about the underlying science to have some clue what was 
going on - but most of them had been through engineering management 
courses where they were taught that engineers were hopeless 
perfectionists who had to be chivied into releasing stuff to production 
as soon as it looked like something that production could put together.

> I think managers don't need offices, because they spend their
> days in meeting rooms. ;-)

They can't shout loudly enough to bully their subordinates effectively 
in open plan offices.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney