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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: first shape discovered by a computer Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:30:59 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <va5f9k$3vq0v$1@dont-email.me> References: <va3vfs$3onti$1@dont-email.me> <va41nq$3ov1e$2@dont-email.me> <va41to$3ov1e$3@dont-email.me> <va4m2v$3rq6i$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a81bdbcc5663df071c60bf99d403b45a"; logging-data="4188191"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19c/DQI8YckaNfSHb8wvqrG9SbGUEfWm+M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:w1bouGC39pYzTtKDLFHCymMwHWA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <va4m2v$3rq6i$1@dont-email.me> On 8/21/2024 5:20 AM, sobriquet wrote: > Op 21/08/2024 om 08:36 schreef Chris M. Thomasson: >> On 8/20/2024 11:33 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 8/20/2024 10:55 PM, sobriquet wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> https://www.desmos.com/3d/t5fsaljsmh >>>> >>>> The shape is comprised of 12 pyramids that come in two varieties, >>>> but they all appear to have the same volume. >>> >>> It looks like a unit 5-gon in the xy plane at (x, y, 0) with each >>> vertex connected to two points, at (0, 0, -1) and (0, 0, 1)? >> >> Not quite... Like two 5 gons one on the xy plane and one on the xz >> plane rotated by pi / 2. I need to take a closer look and try to >> recreate it on my end. Fun. Thanks for the post. Might have some more >> time tonight. > > It's the shape with the biggest volume one can obtain with 8 vertices on > the unit sphere. > > I got the coordinates for the vertices from the paper referenced in the > recent Matt Parker video about the shape. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZy3rXr2yeM > > https://www.ams.org/journals/mcom/1963-17-082/S0025-5718-63-99183-X/S0025-5718-63-99183-X.pdf > > > When I computed the volume of the shape that has an isosceles > triangle as the base for the pyramid, it seemed to give the > impression that it's a twelfth of the total volume, implying > that the other pyramid shape with a scalene triangle base has > the same volume. > > https://www.desmos.com/calculator/stjrx6qsxt Okay. Well, the fun part is that I can use it to plot one of my experiential 3d von Kochs on. My algorithm uses a single triangle to do its thing. Here is an older low-res example: https://youtu.be/AIrP4KeSIjI