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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:32:41 -0700
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On 8/21/24 09:21, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:18:51 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
> <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/19/24 23:54, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:29:21 -0700, Paul S Person
>>> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Which ones?  The usual suspects have accused every Republican
>>>>> president since Eisenhower of being a Nazi.  (Except Ford, for
>>>>> some reason; him, they just tried to assassinate.  Twice.)
>>>>
>>>> Tried and, as with Reagan and Trump failed.
>>>
>>> Did Ike ever get accused of being a Nazi? Seems his activities 1942-45
>>> should have forever inoculated him against that particular canard.
>>> Ditto Truman, JFK and Nixon all of whom served in combat. (Well Truman
>>> was a WW1 artilleryman)
>>
>>
>> 	Democrat Truman was never accused of dictatorial tendencies.
>> He could threaten violence for bad reviews of his daughter Margaret.
>>
>> 	Republican Eisenhower was only fascist toward gays and Communists
>>
>> 	Democrat JFK was left in pain from his wartime injuries.
>>
>> 	Lyndon Baines Johnson served like Nixon in the USN which
>> allowed him a lot of time in Hollywood getting lessons.
>>
>> 	Republican Nixon only technically served in Combat but did
>> work important to the War Effort. He succumbed to the idea of power
>> as the president which lead to Watergate and his resignation.
>> But for wartime
>> <https://thepurcellchronicles.blogspot.com/2017/05/commander-richard-m-nixon-and-world-war.html>
>> 	No one ever called these men NAZIs except maybe extreme pacifists.
>>
>> 	Same for Republican Gerald Ford. Saved by a Gay man from
>> assassination.  Gay Man's life was ruined by the publicity.
>>
>> 	and Democrat Jimmy Carter, victim of Republican chicanery.
> 
> If it is true that Bush I cut a deal with Iran to not free the
> hostages until Reagan was elected, then for "chicanery" we should read
> "treason".

	Oh that Bush is dead so justice cannot reach him so call it
trickery or chicanery. But Reagan won and what do they say about
treason when it prospers?  That none dare call it treason and just
as true in the 20th Century Federal Government apparently. Not
in the Reagan Administration. Ronald Reagan is dead as well so
the main actors in this comedy are again out of reach.

> 
>> 	Republican Reagan was not a NAZI but he was a tool of the
>> Monied Interests with his Trickle Down economics which have never
>> worked for the people at the end of the trickle down stream as it
>> is too weak when it gets to the bottom to support the recipients
>> in good health.
>>
>> 	Republican Bush I was never accused of Fascist leaning but
>> his Father was and maybe with some justice.  So was good old Joe
>> Kennedy. Lots of American elite were Fascist and Isolationists.
>> It was the mood of the time lea\d by heroic but naive Charles
>> Lindbergh.
>>
>> 	Democrat Clinton played some cool jazz which is assumed
>> to be anti-Fascist.  However he loosened the rules on Investment
>> banking which gave us 2008 severe recession.
>>
>> 	Republican Bush II was never accused of Fascism but he
>> was in the press accused of gross stupidity and took us into
>> the idea that Iraq was a Terrorist state with weapons of Mass
>> Destruction and got rid of an anti-terrorist dictator.
>>
>> 	Democrat Obama of course was convicted of being black
>> by Moscow Mike McConnell who swore that Obama would not have
>> a second term but Obama was good enough that a majority of
>> the American People re-elected him.
>>
>> 	Alleged Republican Trump proved that we could do
>> much worse than Bush II. He wants the powers of an autocrat
>> but mainly to avoid prosecution for his many derelictions of
>> presidential duties and laws governing the President. He
>> adopted pre-WW II ideas of isolationism and elite fascism.
>> In the outline by the so-called Christian Dominionists called
>> 2025 these Fascist slugs claims they will institute a Theocracy
>> ruled by very un-Christian and equally un-American ideas.
>>
>> 	Democrat Biden is the best since FDR. If only he had
>> a majority in the Congress for a longer time those monied
>> interests might be a bit less monied.
>>
>> 	The reason presidents are restricted to only two terms
>> is because the Republicans feared a Democratic-led dictatorship
>> but of course in the 1930s the monied interests tried to
>> overthrow Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a retired Marine General
>> exposed them for their plotting.  1932,1936,1940 & 1944 he was
>> re-elected for leading the nation through the Depression and of
>> course for successfully leading the nation during WW II. By the
>> time the WW II ended he was dead He had been crippled by Polio
>> years before he became president and while with braces he could
>> stand he had strong young men around to support him. But being
>> in charge of a nation and a war left him with few physical
>> resources and he died in the service of his nation at 63 YOA.
>> Thank heaven he picked Truman as VP.
> 
> Back in the 80's, my mother (a knee-jerk Republican: mention "Kennedy"
> and her right knee would jerk and she'd say "Chappaquiddick") confided
> in me that the only reason FDR served four terms was because the Dems
> had /suspended the two term limit/ so he could do so. The reality, of
> course, is that the two-term limit came later, mostly to prevent a
> recurrence of a four-term Presidency.
> 
> As I've said before about the Republican Party: the rot runs deep,
> very deep indeed.

	I think I have covered that.

	But the Democratic Party was racist until Kennedy Time.
He was the only president I ever bothered to gaze upon in
San Diego not long before I got kicked out and he got murdered.
My friends in Sacramento were absolutely destroyed by the
assassination but I was too intent on surviving with a UD. And
so once more I was out of step with the mood of the time. I
am really good at that.

	Ford was in San Francisco and I did not get up to catch
a look at him because it was 5 blocks away. I thought of what I
would see and it would be mostly the backs of other proles and
police which sights I could see without crowding ever day of
the week.

	bliss
	
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