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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject: Re: Three Body Problem
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:59:13 -0700
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On 8/21/24 22:07, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <va61n2$2c62$1@dont-email.me>,
>   Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/21/2024 2:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2024 7:35 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> On 8/21/2024 3:02 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>>>>>>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable
>>>>>>> text,
>>>>>>>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware
>>>>>>> tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't use MIME on usenet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "On Friday, Vice President Kamala Harris said she has a
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution: a federal
>>>>>>>>>>>> ban on price gouging across the food industry."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which also has /nothing/ to do with "freezing food prices and making
>>>>>>>> grocery stores report any changes in their prices".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are incorrect. I was also commenting on Lynn, please stick to
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am correct. Please stick to the topic and stop trying to help Lynn
>>>>>>>> escape the consequences of his TPPT addiction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Paul, you are wrong here. Any common sense interpretation of
>>>>>>> that text
>>>>>>> makes it obvious that Lynn is right and you are wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul is correct.   A ban on price gouging is _not_ the same as
>>>>>> price controls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One might even go so far as suggesting that the inability of the
>>>>>> federal government to enforce the anti-trust laws have increased
>>>>>> the frequency of price gouging.  Particularly in the grocery
>>>>>> industry which has overly consolidated over since 1980.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are incorrect. Let's have a look at the definitions:
>>>>>
>>>>> Price control:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Restriction on maximum prices that is established and maintained by
>>>>> the government (as during periods of war or inflation)."
>>>>>
>>>>> Price gouging:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The act of or an instance of charging services or pricing goods at
>>>>> unreasonably high prices."
>>>>>
>>>>> wordnik.com
>>>>>
>>>>> If I, as a company, cannot set my prices freely, my price is
>>>>> controlled. Price control means that the government restrict the
>>>>> ability of business to control its price.
>>>>
>>>> We really don't know the details of Harris's plan, so speculation is
>>>> speculative.
>>>>
>>>> If you, as a company, take advantage of a temporary situation to raise
>>>> your profit margin on say, a bottle of water from 100% to 1000% due
>>>> to being in a hurricane zone, that's gouging.
>>>>
>>>> Again, we're in the dark about what Harris is actually proposing.
>>>> I'm very skeptical over price controls, but we need to find out what she
>>>> is actually thinking.
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>>
>>> We will know when the grocery store shelves start going empty.
>>>
>> You failed to notice that happening under Trump obviously.
> 
> I never noticed a problem with grocery (or retail in general) store
> stocking until February 2020. Some stores haven't yet completely
> recovered.
> 
	Well since March 19 2020 we had a worldwide pandemic and
it was necessary to curtail employee exposures and even trucking
businesses slowed down. Then due to rw advice frem #45 and the
likes of QAnon, a lot of poeple died, some were truckers. Meantime
cargo ships were anchored in San Francisco Bay waiting for personnel
to assemble to transfer cargo in spite of restrictions and the
trucks to carry the goods away to the markets. I imagine the scene
was the same or more so on the East Coast and Gulf ports.

	In San Francisco the closing of the office buildings
wiped out the small shops catering to them and to the businesses
in which they were employed. Lots of local folks lost there
work as things closed down. San Francisco has not quite recovered
though it is definitely doing better. Still lots of opportunity
in San Francisco as lots of prime retail and offic space is
available.  And Employers are calling the office personnel
to come to the office more often despite their work from home
performance.

	bliss
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