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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: RP2350 and Pico 2 - things missing Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:24:40 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 26 Message-ID: <va73l8$daoh$1@dont-email.me> References: <v9lbfn$10qjj$2@dont-email.me> <v9pj3v$1qse0$7@dont-email.me> <lin8sjFbh5vU1@mid.individual.net> <va6s6f$c7dr$1@dont-email.me> <50ae75b3cdb83be61d995844169642d211670e3e.camel@munted.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:24:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0f89ef27eba4b52fd5e9602faf7c6f43"; logging-data="437009"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18fmNDO2Pp2uca8OzpZ2l3LrOrFMjeCXQ0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4buhq/iopYLoUYtgoX37IYTX9pY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <50ae75b3cdb83be61d995844169642d211670e3e.camel@munted.eu> Bytes: 2240 On 22/08/2024 11:00, Single Stage to Orbit wrote: > On Thu, 2024-08-22 at 09:17 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> IIRC 8086 was the same for conditional jumps. >> >> In fact the whole small model thing was coding for a 64k page. >> >> There were a few instructions that worked across pages...but my >> memory is dim. > > FAR and NEAR specifiers used with JMP were often used for intra segment > calls. Data could also be accessed with the same specifiers too, hence > there were five different memmory models, tiny, small, medium, large > and huge with different code and data accesses. Yes, that all sounds vaguely familiar. All that forgotten knowledge that I will take to the grave with me, where, arguably, it belongs... It was a horrible processor to do assembler on, but I made a living out of it for several years. Thank Clapton for 'C' and Unix/Linux/Gnu and the 386 series at which point one no longer had to... -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.