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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:07:02 -0500
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On 8/21/2024 8:49 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 8/21/2024 4:11 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:16:18 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ISTM that I'm betting I'll not need a gun. Over thousands 
>>> and thousands
>>> of trips, I've always been proven right.
>>>
>>> Our Florida tricycle rider is, in effect, betting that 
>>> he's going to
>>> someday need a gun.
>>
>> <sigh> ...Strawman.  A bet involves an ante or a stake. 
>> Something that
>> you lose if you lose the bet.
> 
> You've already lost. You spent money to buy the gun you were 
> afraid you needed for "protection." That was the main part 
> of your "stake," and that money is gone. You also spent time 
> building your special Quick Draw McGraw holster down by your 
> crotch. That time is gone. At least, since your riding is 
> limited to almost perfectly flat bike paths, you don't lose 
> much due to the weight of the gun.
> 
>>
>>> Sounds like in at least hundreds of trips, he's been
>>> consistently proven wrong.
>>
>> Does the fact that we've never needed the window break 
>> tools we carry
>> in both vehicles prove that it's wrong to carry them?
> 
> Seriously?? You bought tools to break your car's windows if 
> you're trapped inside?  Gawd! How paranoid!
> 
>>> But still, he's afraid.
>>
>> That's from the guy that insists that my riding on 
>> bidirectional
>> sidepaths is dangerous and that my having a gun in my home 
>> (I have
>> four) puts me in danger of being shot.
> 
> And I've provided clear documentation of the data showing 
> that those with guns in the home are more likely to be shot 
> (although in your case, data shows your wife is more at 
> risk); and data showing that bidirectional bike paths are 
> much more dangerous for the wrong-way cyclists entering 
> intersections.
> 
> But I suppose a person has to have actual education in 
> science to understand such data...
> 
>> ...And he says that I'm fearful.
> 
> You obviously are. Nobody else here has shared your fears.
> 


Actually, that's a real thing.  In modern autos (unlike 
mine) a loss of electric power to the door locks and windows 
commonly traps (often injured) occupants inside.  Window 
break tools are a common popular thing now.

https://emergencyresponderproducts.com/products/supreme-safety-window-punch-1

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971