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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Higher Education Is Overrated Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:41:20 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <va7f61$efcb$7@dont-email.me> References: <g93ecjtrrifgc697ak5eak0ja6ga0k7282@4ax.com> <hq5ecjtk7j4ootq85ghpmp88vumdc4g7fv@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:41:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cf41fd3dc73c60a773650af6559ceaac"; logging-data="474507"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18PRxVrTL//JTxBsqaysu64" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6BQxthNd5UmR+23xcHV+UXT7w3c= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <hq5ecjtk7j4ootq85ghpmp88vumdc4g7fv@4ax.com> Bytes: 3412 On 8/22/2024 6:42 AM, John B. wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 06:04:55 -0400, Catrike Ryder > <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >> >> https://hbr.org/2010/07/higher-education-is-highly-ove > > The problem is that "higher education" has come to mean "collage > education" when in fact it should be seen as any advanced knowledge. > > A rather vivid example is the English Bowman of the 1300's and 1400s > were able to win battles against much larger and much better equipped > French forces.The Battle of Crécy took place on 26 August 1346 between > an English army of from 7,000 to 15,000 (data was somewhat poor in > those days) was able to defeat an army of from 20,000 - 30,000 French > who were equipped with far better equipment. Loses on the English side > was in the region of 1 for every 13-15 French who were killed. > > In the Battle of Agincourt about 100 year later 6,000 to 8,000 English > took on some 14,000–15,000 French and beat them again with about 600 > English losses versus 6,000 French losses, and 600 - 2,000 captured. > > While the difference in formal education was probably not great, among > the Gentry, the English had a program to encourage archery and boys > might start archery training as early as 10 years of age and there was > a "government program" to manufacture archery supplies, bows and > arrows. > > By the way, for anyone that cares the "English Long Bow" might better > be called the Welch Long Bow" as it is though it originated in that > country(s). > > > > Thanks. Beyond that, I pointed out here (and elsewhere) on Russia's invasion of Ukraine that they had a really crappy army as they are mostly short-term conscripts, treated badly in general and lacking career noncoms and warrant officers. This is a nontrivial point regarding education and training often called 'institutional memory'. Until recently our own forces were especially effective, with highly skilled noncoms, warrant officers and field officers not only well trained but also given more latitude in decision making than others, especially the Russian army. Which is why they have lost so many flag officers in the past few years; they do not have a competent career field officer and noncom base. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971