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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Five SFF Stories About Hell and Damnation Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:44:30 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 87 Message-ID: <va7pte$gkmu$1@dont-email.me> References: <va2893$cp0$1@reader1.panix.com> <va2p57$3g4mo$1@dont-email.me> <va3e6b$3io3l$3@dont-email.me> <va3p5n$3o09f$1@dont-email.me> <va3qq2$3o2om$1@dont-email.me> <va4m3k$3rs7h$1@dont-email.me> <va5cpa$3vb2a$2@dont-email.me> <va5egh$3vk4h$1@dont-email.me> <va5qas$1dlg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:44:30 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78c08d4f5c72898ed2c93c15c86114c5"; logging-data="545502"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19h6iPjp7oooZEbecKjAdKB0HX2TmoH9Bc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XxTjLaRxCeS3Xcdt4ngRFfrIsJM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <va5qas$1dlg$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4575 On 8/21/2024 6:39 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 8/21/24 12:17, Cryptoengineer wrote: >> On 8/21/2024 2:48 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> On 8/21/24 05:21, Cryptoengineer wrote: >>>> On 8/21/2024 12:35 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>> On 8/20/24 21:07, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>>>>> On 8/20/2024 7:59 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote: >>>>>>> On 8/20/2024 3:00 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>>>>>>> On 8/20/2024 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote: >>>>>>>>> Five SFF Stories About Hell and Damnation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hell gets a bad rap--it's certainly a great motivator for any >>>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>>> of plots and characters attempting to escape from the fiery flames >>>>>>>>> of perdition! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-about-hell-and-damnation/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have read "Inferno", several decades ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about the opposite, Heaven ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I advise reading "The World of the End" by Ofir Touché Gafla for >>>>>>>> a truly strange story. >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/World-End-Ofir-Touch%C3%A9-Gafla/ >>>>>>>> dp/0765333570/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aside from Dante's 'Paradiso' (by far the dullest of his Afterlife >>>>>>> Trilogy), I can't think of too many examples outside of the dreck >>>>>>> you'll find in Christian bookstores (if there's any *good* ones, let >>>>>>> us know). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's Twain's 'Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven', written >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> he'd lost his faith in a just God. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heinlein's 'Job: A Comedy of Justice' has some brief scenes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'What Dreams May Come' by Richard Matheson, later made into a film >>>>>>> with a very non-clown-mode Robin Williams. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm told CS Lewis's 'The Great Divorce' may count. >>>>>>> Of course, the final Narnia book has scenes in a Narnian Heaven. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pt >>>>>> >>>>>> The book of Revelation in the Bible is counted as SF by some >>>>>> people. It is truly unnerving. And by some accounts has already >>>>>> passed when Rome destroyed Jerusalem somewhere around AD 70. >>>>>> Others do not think that this is what the book is about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynn >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is about expressing hatred for what the author >>>>> viewed as the "evil" Roman Empire. It is the Beast and the >>>>> author wishes the very worst on it. That the temple in >>>>> Jerusalem had been overthrown was a most likely part of >>>>> the reason for the hate. I think with the right artist >>>>> it couold be a depicted in narrative panels. >>>> >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> You mean like this? >>>> https://thebrickbible.com/legacy/revelation/ >>>> future_revealed_to_guy_on_tiny_mediterranean_island/rv01_01a.html >>>> >>>> pt >>> No more like a manga or graphic novel. >>> bliss >> >> Robert Crumb is working on it, but it will take him a while to get >> to Revelations. >> >> https://archive.org/details/BookOfGenesisIllustratedByR.Crumb/mode/2up >> >> >> pt > Crumb is pretty good but he was not whom I was thinking of. > Clay Wilson would do a better job on Revelations imho. > Chckered Demon style. > bliss Clay Wilson would do an interesting job, for certain! pt