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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: V5 --- Professor Sipser
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:39:53 -0500
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On 8/22/2024 8:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/22/24 9:21 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/22/2024 7:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/22/24 9:36 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 8/22/2024 8:21 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:59:59 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 8/22/2024 3:16 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 22.aug.2024 om 06:22 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>       If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D 
>>>>>> until
>>>>>>       H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop
>>>>>>       running unless aborted then
>>>>>>       H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>>>>>       specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>>>>>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 
>>>>>> 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We swap the word "determines" for "predicts"
>>>>>> When we swap thew word "halt decider" for "termination analyzer" the
>>>>>> above is translated from computer science into software engineering.
>>>>>> The second half proves that this is the H that aborts that is 
>>>>>> making the
>>>>>> prediction of the behavior of D when emulated by a hypothetical 
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of itself then never aborts.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THIS EXACTLY MATCHES THE SIPSER APPROVED CRITERIA The finite 
>>>>>>>> HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>> emulates itself emulating DDD exactly once and this is 
>>>>>>>> sufficient for
>>>>>>>> this HHH to predict what a different HHH(DDD) do that never aborted
>>>>>>>> its emulation of its input.
>>>>>>> But that different hypothetical HHH is a non-input.
>>>>>> HHH is supposed to predict what the behavior of DDD would be if it 
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> not abort its emulation of DDD that is what the words that Professor
>>>>>> agreed to mean.
>>>>> If IT didn’t abort DDD calling its aborting self.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how you twist words to get that.
>>>> HHH is required to predict the behavior of DDD
>>>> as if every HHH had its abort code removed.
>>>
>>> But that isn't the input, so that is just a LIE.
>>
>> PREDICT HYPOTHETICAL BEHAVIOR
> Nope, Predict the ACTUAL behavior.
> 
> You are just admitting you are lying about the 

That is NOT what the words actually say.
I hope you don't get condemned to Hell over this.

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