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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: New research suggests rainwater helped form the first protocell walls Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:46:39 -0600 Organization: Amateur Plyd Lines: 56 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <va947j$ptr4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="95917"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:bz6muPxkHmRvrSN2wRhkQwEZs/o= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 17F8222986F; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:46:50 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C5B22978C for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:46:47 -0400 (EDT) id 44C95872A8; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 144EC7FC2B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:46:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mod-relay.zaccari.net 144EC7FC2B (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B4E85F83F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 04:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/3B4E85F83F; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=invalid.invalid id BD18CDC01A9; Fri, 23 Aug 2024 06:46:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 06:46:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Mozilla-News-Host: snews://news.eternal-september.org:563 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18V8sxEKgzKbR9UbbyhhPH7hStrruk1PTM= FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4767 Lengthy article. Worth a skim. https://phys.org/news/2024-08-life-rainwater-protocell-walls.html One of the major unanswered questions about the origin of life is how droplets of RNA floating around the primordial soup turned into the membrane-protected packets of life we call cells. A new paper by engineers from the University of Chicago's Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering (UChicago PME), the University of Houston's Chemical Engineering Department, and biologists from the UChicago Chemistry Department, have proposed a solution. In the paper, published in Science Advances, UChicago PME postdoctoral researcher Aman Agrawal and his co-authors—including UChicago PME Dean Emeritus Matthew Tirrell and Nobel Prize-winning biologist Jack Szostak—show how rainwater could have helped create a meshy wall around protocells 3.8 billion years ago, a critical step in the transition from tiny beads of RNA to every bacterium, plant, animal, and human that ever lived. .... https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adn9657 Did the exposure of coacervate droplets to rain make them the first stable protocells? Abstract Membraneless coacervate microdroplets have long been proposed as model protocells as they can grow, divide, and concentrate RNA by natural partitioning. However, the rapid exchange of RNA between these compartments, along with their rapid fusion, both within minutes, means that individual droplets would be unable to maintain their separate genetic identities. Hence, Darwinian evolution would not be possible, and the population would be vulnerable to collapse due to the rapid spread of parasitic RNAs. In this study, we show that distilled water, mimicking rain/freshwater, leads to the formation of electrostatic crosslinks on the interface of coacervate droplets that not only suppress droplet fusion indefinitely but also allow the spatiotemporal compartmentalization of RNA on a timescale of days depending on the length and structure of RNA. We suggest that these nonfusing membraneless droplets could potentially act as protocells with the capacity to evolve compartmentalized ribozymes in prebiotic environments.