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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable --- truth-bearer Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:34:07 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 36 Message-ID: <va9hhv$rnd8$1@dont-email.me> References: <v86olp$5km4$1@dont-email.me> <7f2a1f77084810d4cee18ac3b44251601380b93a@i2pn2.org> <v9ogmp$1i745$6@dont-email.me> <662de0ccc3dc5a5f0be0918d340aa3314d51a348@i2pn2.org> <v9oj4r$1i745$8@dont-email.me> <02642e518edd3aa9152cd47e4e527f21ee53a0e8@i2pn2.org> <v9okho$1i745$10@dont-email.me> <60c0214582c7f97e49ef6f8853bff95569774f97@i2pn2.org> <v9p7im$1p6bp$4@dont-email.me> <d67278caa0b8782725e806b61adf892028f2bf89@i2pn2.org> <v9qd2p$1tedb$10@dont-email.me> <4d8c7b1c69915ebbe108d7f4e29cf6172eac7759@i2pn2.org> <v9qel5$1tedb$13@dont-email.me> <43690773dba43c5d93d11635af0a26532e5be390@i2pn2.org> <v9qgn7$1tedb$15@dont-email.me> <v9sisj$2bs9m$1@dont-email.me> <v9slov$2c67u$3@dont-email.me> <v9uusd$2q1fo$1@dont-email.me> <v9vfh4$2rjt1$10@dont-email.me> <va1p24$3bb53$1@dont-email.me> <va26l9$3cvgv$5@dont-email.me> <bcbebf04fffc6303a7c7b0c9e40738214b92c22e@i2pn2.org> <va4nl9$3s0hu$4@dont-email.me> <va79ku$e616$1@dont-email.me> <va7e4r$ebdg$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:34:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="26b8411c2e56db26e0b6475430bba58d"; logging-data="908712"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187LZSYuyXLSJrHDjxtZdt7" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:BFV5sK0IbagtENaQi6T8P6BTq78= Bytes: 3133 On 2024-08-22 13:23:39 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/22/2024 7:06 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-21 12:47:37 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> >>> Formal systems kind of sort of has some vague idea of what True >>> means. Tarski "proved" that there is no True(L,x) that can be >>> consistently defined. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tarski%27s_undefinability_theorem#General_form >>> >>> *The defined predicate True(L,x) fixed that* >>> Unless expression x has a connection (through a sequence >>> of true preserving operations) in system F to its semantic >>> meanings expressed in language L of F then x is simply >>> untrue in F. >>> >>> Whenever there is no sequence of truth preserving from >>> x or ~x to its meaning in L of F then x has no truth-maker >>> in F and x not a truth-bearer in F. We never get to x is >>> undecidable in F. >> >> Tarski proved that True is undefineable in certain formal systems. >> Your definition is not expressible in F, at least not as a definition. >> > > Like ZFC redefined the foundation of all sets I redefine > the foundation of all formal systems. You cannot redefine the foundation of all formal systems. Every formal system has the foundation it has and that cannot be changed. Formal systems are eternal and immutable. -- Mikko