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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:04:46 -0400
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On 8/23/2024 10:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:37:33 -0500,
>    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>   On 8/21/2024 2:31 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:30:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>>>> Spoken like a man totally ignorant of music theory, how
>>>> difficult it can be and how useful it is when playing,
>>>> improvising or composing.
>>>
>>> <LOL> I doubt the lack of knowledge of music theory caused
>>> Willy Nelson, Peter Frampton, Paul Simon, John Lennon,
>>> McArtney, or George Harrison, any trouble...  Need I go on? I
>>> could fill the page with succesful musician/composers who
>>> never even heard the term "music theory."
>>
>>   Yes to all that but an equal number of counterexamples.
>>
>>   There's no general rule; Formal training assists and enriches
>>   some performers/songwriters while others get along well on
>>   extreme diligence and independent study alone.  Once in a while
>>   there's even a 'natural', a.k.a., 'idiot savant' as an outlier.
>>   From musicians I've known, I'd say success correlates strongly
>>   to extreme diligence above all else.
> 
> +1
> 
> As someone who started college as a music major, I can confirm the
> two main categories of career are teaching and performing.  So far
> as classical music goes, making a career out of performing has a
> couple of options: toiling away at very low paying jobs or hitting
> the bigtime as a star.  Like professional athletics, great success
> alomost requires an extreme degree of dedication and effort--not
> to mention some luck,  It didn't take me too long to reaize I
> didn't want to spend half (or more) of every day practicing.  On
> top of that, I didn't really want to teach--so I made an informed
> decision to switch majors.
> 
> FWIW, I had music theory in high school, and really enjoyed it.
> It definitely enhanced my musical abilities too.

Music was one of the majors I considered on entering the university. I'm 
glad I chose engineering. I'm deeply into music, I practice and/or play 
daily (usually on more than one instrument), but I think it's much more 
pleasant as an avocation. I wouldn't have liked a life where I was 
constantly hustling to get performance gigs.

I'm jealous that you got music theory in high school. Back then I played 
clarinet, a single line melody instrument. Nobody thought I needed to 
know anything but how to read melody. I've since spent long hours 
pondering things like, say, the difference between Natural Minor and 
Dorian Mode, and the effect on harmony and chord selections.

-- 
- Frank Krygowski