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On 8/23/2024 11:37 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:04:46 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/23/2024 10:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:37:33 -0500,
>>>     AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>    On 8/21/2024 2:31 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:30:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Spoken like a man totally ignorant of music theory, how
>>>>>> difficult it can be and how useful it is when playing,
>>>>>> improvising or composing.
>>>>>
>>>>> <LOL> I doubt the lack of knowledge of music theory caused
>>>>> Willy Nelson, Peter Frampton, Paul Simon, John Lennon,
>>>>> McArtney, or George Harrison, any trouble...  Need I go on? I
>>>>> could fill the page with succesful musician/composers who
>>>>> never even heard the term "music theory."
>>>>
>>>>    Yes to all that but an equal number of counterexamples.
>>>>
>>>>    There's no general rule; Formal training assists and enriches
>>>>    some performers/songwriters while others get along well on
>>>>    extreme diligence and independent study alone.  Once in a while
>>>>    there's even a 'natural', a.k.a., 'idiot savant' as an outlier.
>>>>    From musicians I've known, I'd say success correlates strongly
>>>>    to extreme diligence above all else.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> As someone who started college as a music major, I can confirm the
>>> two main categories of career are teaching and performing.  So far
>>> as classical music goes, making a career out of performing has a
>>> couple of options: toiling away at very low paying jobs or hitting
>>> the bigtime as a star.  Like professional athletics, great success
>>> alomost requires an extreme degree of dedication and effort--not
>>> to mention some luck,  It didn't take me too long to reaize I
>>> didn't want to spend half (or more) of every day practicing.  On
>>> top of that, I didn't really want to teach--so I made an informed
>>> decision to switch majors.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I had music theory in high school, and really enjoyed it.
>>> It definitely enhanced my musical abilities too.
>>
>> Music was one of the majors I considered on entering the university. I'm
>> glad I chose engineering. I'm deeply into music, I practice and/or play
>> daily (usually on more than one instrument), but I think it's much more
>> pleasant as an avocation. I wouldn't have liked a life where I was
>> constantly hustling to get performance gigs.
>>
>> I'm jealous that you got music theory in high school. Back then I played
>> clarinet, a single line melody instrument. Nobody thought I needed to
>> know anything but how to read melody. I've since spent long hours
>> pondering things like, say, the difference between Natural Minor and
>> Dorian Mode, and the effect on harmony and chord selections.
> 
> Good grief. It's very easy to figure out what sounds good for those of
> us that play and sing by ear. Experimenting on the keyboard is a
> pleasant diversion. I often play it through earphones so as not to
> wake up my wife and neighbors in the middle of the night. Like I say
> in my book bios, I don't entertain any more.

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