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HenHanna wrote:
> On 7/2/2024 3:12 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>> Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> wrote or quoted:
>> |Is that a P D Q Bach piece?
>>
>>    Two days ago, I heard a simple and beautiful slow piece, not
>>    too fast, with one and two voices (i.e., notes played at the
>>    same time) played on a classical guitar (with nylon strings).
>>
>>    I thought that - if I would practice it carefully - I should be
>>    able to play that piece. I wanted to do this. Then, I woke up.
>>    It was a kind of an acoustic dream.
> 
> i've had similar experience a few times....
> 
>                 One time, it was so good that  i hummed it into my PC.
> 
>  >>>    there are a few interesting cases where sleep played a crucial 
> role in the creative process:
> 
> Paul McCartney and "Yesterday":         McCartney famously claims the 
> melody for "Yesterday" came to him in a dream. He woke up with the song 
> in his head, unsure if he'd actually written it or dreamt it. He 
> presented it to friends and other musicians, concerned it might be a 
> subconscious plagiarism, but no one recognized it. "Yesterday" became a 
> massive hit for The Beatles.
> 
>                ---------- i guess George was once sued, and lost
> 
> Niccolo Paganini and the Devil's Violin Concerto:     This is more 
> legend than fact, but the story goes that Paganini, a virtuoso violinist 
> and composer, sold his soul to the devil in exchange for unmatched 
> musical talent. One version of the legend claims he composed his most 
> famous piece, the "Violin Concerto No. 1 in D Minor," in a dream after 
> making the pact.
> 
> Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his Requiem:       While not entirely 
> composed in a dream, Mozart claimed the opening bars of his Requiem came 
> to him in a dream, a premonition of his own death.

Creativity, lucidity, in dreams is something that
has been noted for some and is not limited to
music - poetry like Coleridge's "Kubla Khan", Benson
"The Phoenix".

My favorite is Kekule's dream of the structure of
benzene.