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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:41:50 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vafcau$1st8a$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <87il0lldf8.fsf@tudado.org> <choices-20240413123957@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v9lm2k$12qhv$1@dont-email.me> <v9m4gd$14scu$1@dont-email.me> <20240815182717.189@kylheku.com> <v9npls$1fjus$1@dont-email.me> <v9posc$1rpdj$1@dont-email.me> <v9pvoo$1sn55$1@dont-email.me> <v9r60h$2289h$2@dont-email.me> <v9sa91$2afht$1@dont-email.me> <v9sbf4$2artq$1@dont-email.me> <v9shqt$2bn73$1@dont-email.me> <v9t4vm$2eg9b$1@dont-email.me> <v9t6jg$2e96d$1@dont-email.me> <vaennp$1q5l3$2@dont-email.me> <vaf179$1rnhl$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:41:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="28f6d5a3a73146dcec7aae3d6bd3dd5c"; logging-data="1996042"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18C/ZUqI+cksp2AtSvtgCjU" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; 7830f38; Linux-6.11.0-rc5) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tjvUNyaFkZXFvwtB2Df0JD5U7dM= X-Face: \}2`P"_@pS86<'EM:'b.Ml}8IuMK"pV"?FReF$'c.S%u9<Q#U*4QO)$l81M`{Q/n XL'`91kd%N::LG:=*\35JS0prp\VJN^<s"b#bff@fA7]5lJA.jn,x_d%Md$,{.EZ Bytes: 3206 On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:32:10 +0200, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in <vaf179$1rnhl$1@dont-email.me>: > On 2024-08-25 09:50, Sebastian wrote: >> In comp.unix.programmer Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> >> wrote: >>> Windows did many things wrong, but accessing file descriptors by >>> numbers is beyond even Windows. In Windows a file is an OS object. You >>> access it getting an opaque handle to. Note that a handle can be >>> marshaled from one process to another. Try that with process-local >>> numbers! >> >> UNIX domain sockets support the passing of file descriptors between >> processes. > > File descriptor (a pointer to) is not file number. > > You cannot pass number 1 simply because 1 is already in use. On this Linux system, "man 7 unix", in the section "SCM_RIGHTS", it explains how the passing mechanism is handled. One paragraph reads: Commonly, this operation is referred to as "passing a file descriptor" to another process. However, more accurately, what is being passed is a reference to an open file description (see open(2)), and in the re‐ ceiving process it is likely that a different file de‐ scriptor number will be used. Semantically, this op‐ eration is equivalent to duplicating (dup(2)) a file descriptor into the file descriptor table of another process. -- -v