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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:51:16 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <vafne4$1vs20$3@dont-email.me> References: <vab101$3er$1@reader1.panix.com> <vad7ns$1g27b$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vad8lr$1fv5u$1@dont-email.me> <vaf7f0$k51$2@reader1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57cdba51789b595ebde6070eebd9ccbd"; logging-data="2093120"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19l7DwShFHVEgOiRNW3h7jUy1CRwIqix1w=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kwF8ahBXk4t/94eiXnvIPiM29N0= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vaf7f0$k51$2@reader1.panix.com> Bytes: 3426 On 25/08/2024 14:18, John Forkosh wrote: > Bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: >> On 24/08/2024 19:11, Bonita Montero wrote: >>> Am 24.08.2024 um 00:03 schrieb John Forkosh: >>>> I came across >>>> https://www.fastcompany.com/91169318/ >>>> where I was quite surprised, and very happily so, >>>> to see C listed as #3 on its list of >>>> "Top 10 most common hard skills listed in 2023" >>>> (scroll about halfway down for that list). Moreover, >>>> C++ doesn't even make it anywhere in that top-10 list. >>>> So is that list sensible??? I'd personally be delighted >>>> if so, but I'm suspicious it may just be wishful thinking >>>> on my part, and some kind of goofiness on the list's author. >>> >>> I guess C++ is used much more often because you're multiple times >>> more produdtive than with C. And programming in C++ is a magnitude >>> less error-prone. >> >> C++ incorporates most of C. So someone can write 'C++' code but can >> still have most of the same problems as C. >> >> Meanwhile real C++ code has several times more boilerplate than C. HTF >> you can even discern your actual program amidst all that crap is beyond me. >> >> There /are/ proper higher level languages than both C and C++. You can >> use one to help develop a working application, then porting that part to >> C is a quicker, simpler and safer process. > > I recall C as originally characterized as a "portable assembly language", You recall incorrectly. Or, rather, you correctly recall people incorrectly characterizing it that way. One of C's original intents (and it has been extraordinarily successful at it) is to reduce the need to write assembly language. > as opposed to a "higher level language". And I'd agree with that > assessment, Then you'd be wrong. Dangerously wrong - people who think C is a kind of "portable assembly language" regularly write incorrect code and miss much of the point of the language. > whereby I think you're barking up the wrong tree by trying > to evaluate its merits/demerits vis-a-vis higher-level languages. > Consider it with respect to its own objectives, instead. That's word salad without content. You are saying that C should be treated like C.