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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Who? Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:39:52 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vag8b8$22tfc$3@dont-email.me> References: <CBAARt4EEHThxO17L5beYQ9mMWI@jntp> <vadbad$1gllh$1@dont-email.me> <0sAbsqFI52cGATcKfyoKTJ3cyYo@jntp> <vaf5kr$1s50h$1@dont-email.me> <zsTKlCIaJEJHMXsvtWB5Tgxb-nI@jntp> <vafsmq$211nh$1@dont-email.me> <o4Yi-48KV4ejVOOvjj9HwIIXh_U@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:39:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7801f336f702aca5f177fe01780d0c8d"; logging-data="2192876"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX195a8+IGb/9RkmuL33GiFa2" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/NWJL9MvxEtpP33Pkqq+s688mc4= In-Reply-To: <o4Yi-48KV4ejVOOvjj9HwIIXh_U@jntp> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2900 Le 25/08/2024 à 23:10, M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit : > Le 25/08/2024 à 20:21, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : > >> Hachel wrote: >> |I notice in my telescope that when my watch marks >> |00:00'08" the lunar clock is desynchronized and marks 00:00'07". >> >> Considering that transactions are instantaneous, >> why do you say that the picture you see in the telescope >> is 00:00'07, when it obviously should be 00:00'08" ? >> >> Please explain. > > [snip off-topic bragging on GR.] > So you have to explain this strange fact. > I admit that the moon is exactly 3.10^8m away (a little closer than in > reality for a simple measurement). > I set the two watches in absolutely identical ways, and I sent one to > the moon, after a three-week trip in order to have a speed that is not > very important compared to c and therefore (1-v²/c² ~1). > Something is going to get strange. > The watches are going to get out of sync. I notice that they always beat > at the same time and that the chronotropy is not altered, > but yet, when my watch shows 00:00'08" the lunar clock shows, at the > same time, 00:00'07". Nope. > This is frankly abnormal, and we are in the same hypothesis as Römer, > observing the moons of Jupiter, and noticing abnormal things. > What is needed is to explain things, and for that, it takes a genius > greater than that of Römer who gave an explanation that, later, will > probably make people laugh when we really understand the theory of > relativity. > The question remains: What is happening with my two watches? Why do they > no longer show the same time? Nothing. In this very scenario they are still showing the same time.