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On Aug 24, 2024 at 5:15:34 AM EDT, "David Brooks" <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> On 24/08/2024 01:05, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:21:05 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lisjr1F5itgU3@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 24/08/2024 00:11, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:04:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lisirvF5itgU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 21:16, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lirug4F1vc0U4@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:04:04 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <lirq7kF1vc0U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 15:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 1:20:03 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <liqv1jFsidqU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/08/2024 00:10, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:14:09 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lipo11Fn1psU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 18:01, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:56:43 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip8ubFkrm3U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 17:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lip0n3Fjk9uU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:34:10 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data could not be decoded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Context?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot - you'll have to magnify:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/jLBHSfw/4278848-B-D336-4-FD4-9-EA4-2260-CDD43-D61.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You posted the reason why your posts at the forum were removed and now you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking others why it was removed? It was removed for the reasons you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please cite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No MID?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arg! I copied the whole message. My client sometimes does stupid things.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Message-ID: <lin80kFb5gfU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it did not come through the first time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That was the message sent from Apple with their standard routine bollox!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *I want to know what nerve my question touched*.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There was NOTHING "inappropriate" about my question. (Or do you think
>>>>>>>>>>> there was?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone notified Apple that that 'WhiterThanWhite' - who asked the
>>>>>>>>>>> question on the ASC - was actually me.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to challenge an arbitrary decision made by those running
>>>>>>>>>>> the ASC forums. Even Apple Support advises folk to simply reinvent
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves under a new Apple ID and carry-on-regardless!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You quoted where they said you should not.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I did indeed. I'm not hiding anything!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have also explained that BDAqua, a major player on the ASC forums,
>>>>>>>>> TOLD me to reinvent myself under another Apple ID.|
>>>>>>>>> Apple Support - by telephone - also told me the same thing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They were OK with it until you continued behavior they asked you to stop. OK.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I really do wish you would pay proper attention.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have been repeatedly asked to stop posting things about other companies
>>>>>> and about your fears of malware. You keep doing so and are now not welcome
>>>>>> there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who has told you that?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a ring yourself and ask Apple Support about the ASC
>>>>>>>>>>> forums and let us know what they say over there in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no desire to be kicked from the forums for harassing them over how they
>>>>>>>>>> handle people who do not respect their rules.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How is calling Apple Support on the 'phone going to hassle anyone on the
>>>>>>>>> ASC forums?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, no désire to harass Apple in any medium.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I didn't ask you to harass Apple.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You want me to contact them and ask about your battle with them. That would
>>>>>> not be appropriate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is not correct.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suggested that you 'phone Apple Support and ask if it is OK for you to
>>>>> reinvent yourself under a new Apple ID in order to gain access to the
>>>>> ASC forums.
>>>> 
>>>> Get involved in your battle with them. But you already said they said it was
>>>> OK. This is all so weird.
>>> 
>>> Do YOU thinks it's OK to use an AppleID - other than your "real" one -
>>> in order to access the ASC forums?
>> 
>> I would likely only use my real one. I do not know. But you said they said it
>> was OK.
> 
> Yes indeed. They don't seem to think it's a security risk.
> 
>>>>>>>>> They make up their own rules, Snit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sure... it is their forum. Who else should make the rules?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/terms
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple should make the rules - and Apple should moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple do NOT moderate the ASC forums.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you don't believe me, ask the question on the ASC forums!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They oversee it, surely.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure that they do. How will you find out the truth of this matter?
>>>> 
>>>> Why would I get caught up in it? I do not use the forums except very casually.
>>> 
>>> To help satisfy my curiosity! ;-)
>> 
>> I am not comfortable digging into them for you after you have been kicked out
>> for what you describe as repeated poor behavior. Does not seem moral.
> 
> THEY have described my behaviour in that way.
> 
> That is, or course, untrue. I /have/ asked searching questions and some
> folk there don't like that.
> SOMEBODY there also manipulates posts/threads to suit their own agenda!
> 
> Why not test for yourself instead of making yourself persona non grata
> here in my Usenet group?
> 
> Try it ....... you might like it! ;-)

Can't you and Snit take this to private email?