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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrew <andrew@spam.net> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Is it possible to create an AppleID on iOS 10.3+ (or macOS 10.12.4+) WITHOUT giving Apple your private phone number permanently for 2FA Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:42:41 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <vagq30$1293$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vabiq0$2boh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:42:41 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="35107"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2Q/unW9/nTb6AY2cIeQ+oQh42w4= sha256:m5MwGNrzx3AeeniY5yYfKTmWZG+rm31EWWWVPeLui68= sha1:86dIg0Ij3nUq+FbBLMrbwvVa5eU= sha256:9PeWqPBlYOw7Hc52cqT3d3IAR/vq9xH5JeKpeU7H20E= X-Face: VQ}*Ueh[4uTOa]Md([|$jb%rw~ksq}bzqA;z-.*8JM`4+zL[`N\ORHCI80}]}$]$e5]/i#v qdYsE`yh@ZL3L{H:So{yN)b=AZJtpaP98ch_4W} Bytes: 2496 Lines: 25 Andrew wrote on Sat, 24 Aug 2024 03:07:45 -0000 (UTC) : > Simple privacy question regarding my iOS 10th gen iPad (iPadOS 17.6.1). > Q: Is it even possible to set up a new iOS (or macOS) device WITHOUT 2FA? > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660> > A: ? Unfortunately, it turns out to be impossible to create a new AppleID without 2 factor authorization since about at least February of 2023. Which means for the rest of your natural life, you can't log into any Apple device with that new AppleID without *also* having your phone with you! That's the dumbest use model on the planet & yet Apple customers accept it! Apple customers are herd-following ignorant sheep if they accept this absurd Apple-only use model which requires you to have your phone with you for the rest of your life just in case you need to log into your device. REFERENCES: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254616267?answerId=258620912022&sortBy=rank#258620912022 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102660 https://developer.apple.com/support/authentication/ https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102660 https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/ etc.