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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!tor-network!not-for-mail From: Voice of REASON <reason@anon.net> Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Subject: Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:18:43 -0400 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <vaj9hm$2kcda$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <vaghon$2598p$1@dont-email.me> <dc9ae946-a14a-386e-9c91-67a5ea8e96be@example.net> <eli$2408261405@qaz.wtf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 01:18:47 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="2765226"; posting-host="VhJ43iS0xGsM9OYw6l2ZHg.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-TOR-Router: sha256:MjAwMTo2N2M6NmVjOjIwMzoxOTI6NDI6MTE2OjE3OA== -- X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Bytes: 2441 Lines: 27 Eli the Bearded wrote: > In misc.news.internet.discuss, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> I find it fascinating how, in such a short time, pro-free speech has >> become an extremist position. >> >> When I was young, I could say I'm in favour of free speech, and no one >> would even care or react, since it was so obvious. >> >> Today, if I say that I am in favour of free speech, people frown, >> complain, call me ridiculous and ask, but what about the terrorists, sex >> abuser, climate deniers and racists? With free speech, all those groups >> will not get punished. You're an extremist! >> >> And this change in about 10 years or so. Absolutely fascinating! >> >> And this change has actually pushed me into becoming a free speech >> extremist. Before I was moderate, and the more people frown, the more I >> find myself advocating absolute free speech. > > I'd say the two significant things that have contributed to people > frowning on free speech abosolutism are: > > 1) Wanting to have free reign of free speech *on a particular privately > owned but publically used platform* (eg Facebook, Twitter, Telegram). > In these cases the owner of the platform needs to have a say. They misrepresent themselves as "the town square", they have market power and they act in concert with others, which is illegal.