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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl> Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Israel achieved nothing by malicious re-interpreting the Torah Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:24:16 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 148 Message-ID: <vak2fg$2tldm$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:24:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b9cba7368e89b1ea5a024dd65e2860b"; logging-data="3069366"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+H7NuSKISbxpJP+KFwl7zo" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MFuFMhLG378EBlK6SYPocsf/N7I= Bytes: 10341 title: Parashat Re'eh He Sought To Make You Stray From The Fear Of HaShem source: Rabbi Yaron Reuven link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beAPSf6e8is&t=1s Perhaps the Jewish people are no longer allowed to execute people for breaking the major laws of the Torah, because you are essentially _all_ breaking the major laws of the Torah, _including_ you Rabbis, who believe themselves to be Orthodox, but you are not Orthodox. You are reformers. It is true however, that there is still a potentially big difference between a Rabbi who at least promotes much of the Torah, versus one which just about throws it all away. The Torah says you shall nullify the debt to the poor person in the 7th year. You invented the prosbul to get around it, but you didn't get around it. You got around nothing. You made yourselves believe you got around something, but all you achieved was become criminals under the Torah law. The lie of the prozbul is in the Shulchan Aruch. Look it up ! The lie of the heter iska, which thinks it allows rent seeking for lending money to another Jew, it is the same. You thought you got around the prohibition on rent seeking, but you did not. All you achieved, was become criminals under the law of the Torah - or say "law breakers" if you are otherwise good (not out to profit from crime and evil, that is). The lie of the heter iska is in the Shulchan Aruch. Look it up ! Paragraphs 66 and 180, if I recall (I have the book here, Shulchan Aruch, beautifully bound, but it contains dirt). The Torah says: every 50th year, the Jubilee will be proclaimed through all the land, to all the inhabitants of the land. The Mishne Torah, made up by Rambam and strongly resisted by that generation, contains the lie that the Jubilee is only to be held when all the tribes are in the land. Do you think that this means you are allowed to ignore the Jubilee ? Because Rambam said so ? Because Rambam quotes someone else perhaps (I guess he does, but it doesn't matter) ? Do you think you are allowed to break the Jubilee, because Israel back in the past did the same (according to some sources at least) when two tribes left the Sovereignty of the one Jewish Nation ? Of course not, the Torah even says: you are not allowed to sell the land in perpetuity. How else are you going to deal with the ownership of land, than through the system written in the Torah ? You are obligated, on pain of death, and that can be a collective death of a large amount of the Jewish Nation as a whole, including almost all of you (!): after the conquest you distribute it to all, every family gets their land, and then they may rent it out if they need to up to the next 50 year only. At the 50th year, the land returns without further issues, returns to the original owners. You thought you where clever ? You earned yourselves a verdict, a verdict of expulsion from the holy land, and the verdict has been executed upon you, and it still is. You are not just not allowed to change the Torah, you _cannot_ change the Torah. Moreover you cannot change the deeper principle of the truth behind all people needing to own their share of the land, because land does not work as a commodity in the market. It is not made by humans ! Don't you understand anything, Israel ? Are you the smartest people on Earth ? (I think you are but ... come on, do better than this Zionist State you have now.) All you achieved was that you broke the Torah. You changed nothing. You can write the name Rambam on the Western wall if you want, you still do not change the Torah, you still need to perform the Jubilee on the land if you can, or do as much of the Torah as you practically can (now that you are in exile, it is harder, but it isn't hard to at least know what is the truth). Then there is the Shabbos, and even that you have overthrown, by law ! You think you can't even flick a light switch, even though this has nothing to do with "hard work" anymore, but then you end the Shabbos when it is still that same day, just the evening following it and before you go to bed to sleep. What Nation has a day which ends when the day is still going on ! Show me one ! It's nuts. You achieved nothing, you did not alter the Torah by altering the way the days follow upon each other. After the long night sleep, only then is it the next day. It doesn't matter much if you make that moment like when all people are just gone to bed, or just before they wake up, that's technicalities and minor detail (I suppose). However, everyone is awake shortly after the Sun goes down, and many people have many hours to go on that day. If they go into the city to open their bakeries and their entertainment industries, they didn't cleverly kept the Shabbos in an inventive way, which allowed them also to work both on the 6th day and the 7th, no. They achieved nothing. They broke the Shabbos, but worse: the Shabbos has been broken _by law,_ by the Rabbis as law. Nothing has been achieved, nothing has been altered. There are no clever tricks. You broke with your God. Return to your God, and he shall return to you. This he has promised. There is only one Israel. Listen to these fools these gentiles, less the one in a thousand even cares at all about anything. There Israel, reading the Torah, copying it dilligently letter by letter, thinking about important topics, calling their people to do better. Well .... maybe that is a bit optimistic. We now have gentiles going weird, but some Rabbis are not far behind. It isn't fair if Rabbis break major parts of the law down, and these incorrect and obviously fraudulent attacks on the Torah are allowed to stand by the community of Israel, fake law is taught to children - they have no idea - but then the Rabbis are condeming heretics to death. No, they are themselves law breakers. The Pharisees have themselves been exiled. The Temple under the control of Hillel and his clan, it was destroyed, it was destroyed for a reason. You mourn for it, but I think that is a mistake of sorts. There is a lot to be mournful about when the Romans came down with their Tyranny, that is true. Nevertheless, if Hashem had not taken the Temple away, the corruption would have rotted on to much worse effect even today. Look, the lies of Hillel are still on the books ! If the Temple had stood another generation, how many more lies would have entered as phony law. Hashem protected you, by destroying the core of corruption, which had taken hold of the 2nd Temple, and while there is a lot to cry about, there is also something to be glad about, and that is that (apparently) your God has his eyes on Yerushalayim and on the place where his Temple stood, and he does what he can for his people, to protect them, even if he has to protect you by punishing you. I hope for all your sakes, that you will soon return to your Torah, so that your God can do as he promised to Abraham. Then you will go from the bottom of the Nations, from the oppressed and scorned ones, to the heroes who saved humanity, who are the light of the world, the light of the truth, of Justice & Peace. It must happen, therefore this is a good time to stop with your betraying the Torah with these games. You will have to do Teshuvah over it, sooner or later, hence you might as well make it easy on yourself, and gain the additional honor over it (deserved credit for courage and zeal for the truth). Oy oy oy Israel .... why does it always take so much time with you, why are you so hard necked. Are you truly mindless, and all you can hang on to is your hard neck, your obstinacy ? You really think that being angry and ultra conservative to something which is a horrible reform and a betrayal, that this is making you a good person ? Look at the gentiles, many of them are damaged for life by their indoctrination. That is having a hard neck, they cannot get over it, but neither can you. You feel righteous, for following Rambam, because someone told you so, and you believed them ? Idolators have emotions too, they are so sure of themselves, their God of sand will save them, the ice god will come to the resque, no it is the god of fortune, any moment now, they are so sure of it ! All their lives, but are you different ? The Torah is not in heaven, you do not have to ask: go into heaven for us, bring down what we must do. The Torah is in your hand, in your hand ! Read it, read it yourself, and see if I am right or if I am telling you nothing more than your own Torah. Where is the story about the candles and the 3 stars in the Torah ? Where does it say you may make "loopholes" in the Torah, if you feel greedy ? It doesn't ! Return, before the next round of punishment has to start in earnest. Oh you think 'moshiach' is here any day now, some even say 'must have already come'. That is your way out ? You think 'moshiach' will ratify your betrayals of the Torah ? Good luck with that ! /sarcasm. Of course that is not going to happen. Oy oy oy, so hardnecked ... so sure of themselves. Rambam this, Hillel that, and those aren't even Prophets, let alone HKB'H himself. You have been warned, and shown a way out, for your sakes. Neglecting to head the rebuke, also adds guilt to all of you, I'm sorry to say. It is what it is, it cannot be avoided. -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl