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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: C and C++, promotion, stabilization, migrationFor embedded Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:44:09 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <vakhmp$302ef$1@dont-email.me> References: <v9kske$uqhh$2@dont-email.me> <va04hl$2viks$2@dont-email.me> <va08j7$30gmu$1@dont-email.me> <va22kr$3ce14$2@dont-email.me> <vaaa1j$v7rp$1@dont-email.me> <vab69p$1356i$1@dont-email.me> <vakglo$2vtd5$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:44:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="027cd82c2fcf689cf3e0f2a9b1da688a"; logging-data="3148239"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18e16gaPDotDCEZBU2qTmn/4D2QJhcYi8I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:cI+NSE1ZDQKTwkwSn2TvZV6dgDU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vakglo$2vtd5$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2679 On 8/27/2024 8:26 AM, Simon Clubley wrote: > On 2024-08-23, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote: >> On 8/23/2024 11:32 AM, Stephen Hoffman wrote: >>> OpenVMS has ~no concept of languages, either. Yeah, the C abd C++ I18N >>> giblets, Java and its own little world, maybe using the existing and >>> older ICU or maybe you ported a newer ICU, and the deprecated Terminal >>> Fallback Facility (TFF) and National (Replacement) Character Set (NCS) >>> giblets, sure. All of which make things more interesting for apps that >>> want or need to deal with the UTF-8 and post-ASCII world. >> >> Regarding UTF-8 support, then my take is that: >> >> UTF-8 in file names, in usernames, in logicals, in identifiers and in >> programs/scripts: not really needed. >> > > Some possible examples: > > Train_Timetable_Flåm_to_Hønefoss.pdf > > or (in a filesystem): > > /data/sites/Flåm/ > /data/sites/Hønefoss/ > /data/sites/Bodø/ > > How do you think these should be handled ? > > Not every location on the planet is restricted to using US-ASCII naming. You transscribe them per common rules. å -> aa ø -> oe The IT people should not have any problems with that. And the non-IT people should not be exposed to this. More like: <a href="Train_Timetable_Flaam_to_Hoenefoss.pdf">Train Timetable Flåm to Hønefoss (in PDF format)</a> Arne