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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:13:56 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <valc26$33vq7$3@dont-email.me> References: <vab101$3er$1@reader1.panix.com> <vad7ns$1g27b$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vad8lr$1fv5u$1@dont-email.me> <vaf7f0$k51$2@reader1.panix.com> <vafgb2$1to4v$2@dont-email.me> <vafkdk$1ut4h$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <20240825192810.0000672c@yahoo.com> <vafs6u$21ofd$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vafsst$20j4p$3@dont-email.me> <vaj3c4$2lb2c$1@dont-email.me> <vaj46o$2kusd$2@dont-email.me> <vajvoh$2t849$1@dont-email.me> <vak35f$2tphj$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vak6f8$2tsqj$2@dont-email.me> <vak7c0$2ufit$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vaki4u$303sg$1@dont-email.me> <vakjff$30c4f$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:13:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="76292f7df13f86855cacc91f073fc1c9"; logging-data="3276615"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+GrFWV9wx8YAFNulhSuzJB+hlvhrDs/gk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Srxaa4RBIQZR3X2VOcHFeBq0uJ4= In-Reply-To: <vakjff$30c4f$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3184 On 27/08/2024 14:14, Bonita Montero wrote: > Am 27.08.2024 um 14:51 schrieb David Brown: > >> 90% of statistics are plucked from the air, including that one. > > With C++ this fits. Most abstractions don't have an additional overhead > over a manual implementation. > Hmm. I'll pass on that. >> As I said, you have no idea what you are talking about in the context >> of low-level programming. > > I told you why it isn't practicable to suppress exceptions in C++ > since the runtime uses a lot of exceptions. > There are quite a lot of places in low level programming where you have to manage without them. Sometimes you have to do without the runtime as well. That doesn't mean you can't use C++ itself. >> Again, you demonstrate your total ignorance of the topic. > > Most of the time a nanosecond more doesn't count, especiailly because > usually you do more complex things in a virtual function. > >> The vast majority of processors produced and sold do not have any kind >> of branch prediction. > > Not today. The vast majority of processors in desktop computers and above, sure. But do you think the one in my watch has one? My thermostat? The alarm clock? I've got at least a dozen devices with processors in this room with me right now. There are an awful lot of these small things. Where power usage and cost matters far more than performance. Andy