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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 07:08:06 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <van3v7$3f6c0$5@dont-email.me> References: <vajdta$2qe9s$1@dont-email.me> <vak3a0$2teq9$1@dont-email.me> <vakhnf$302rl$2@dont-email.me> <vamk7l$3d7ki$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 14:08:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fac62f6084ae4030e082c32c7cff718b"; logging-data="3643776"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+R0iqk+ZO/RCygKHTBRw3D" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3bSQPRlGU7XxIriwdaQDlZTPbfE= In-Reply-To: <vamk7l$3d7ki$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2759 On 8/28/2024 2:39 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-27 12:44:31 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/27/2024 3:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 27.aug.2024 om 04:33 schreef olcott: >>>> This is intended to be a stand-alone post that does not >>>> reference anything else mentioned in any other posts. >>>> >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> return; >>>> } >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> When we assume that: >>>> (a) HHH is an x86 emulator that is in the same memory space as DDD. >>>> (b) HHH emulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86 language. >>>> >>>> then we can see that DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly get past >>>> its own machine address 0000217a. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, we see. In fact DDD is not needed at all. >> >> A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal >> fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under >> discussion... >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man > > You should also point a link to the equivocation fallacy. You use it > more often than straw man. > Isomorphism is not equivocation -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer