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From: Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wargamer] Pathfinder rolls back controversial license changes
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 14:09:10 +0200
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On 8/27/2024 6:03 PM, Justisaur wrote:
> On 8/25/2024 12:43 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 23:13:58 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Source: 
>>> https://www.wargamer.com/pathfinder/license-changes-OGL-controversy
>>>
>>> DnD’s top rival Pathfinder rolls back controversial license changes
>>>
>>> Paizo, publisher of Dungeons and Dragons’ alter ego RPG Pathfinder, has
>>> retconned planned changes to its game licenses after fan feedback.
>>
>>
>> The first thought that went through my head was that the WOTC lawyers,
>> having lost their job after the OGL fiasco, got hired at Paizo. I
>> mean, that's not what happened, but it was my first impression.
>>
>> I mean, how else could Paizo make such a bone-headed move after
>> watching WOTC crash onto those same rocks?
> 
> Also my first thoughts.
> 
>> Still, I get it. Paizo made it big largely as a result of D&D 4E's
>> unpopularity. Their fortunes have been dwindling since 5E was
>> overwhelmingly welcomed by the fans. I've no idea how their finances
>> are, but from everything I can tell, they're nowhere near as popular
>> as in their heyday. And with decreasing sales and the threat of D&D 6E
>> on the horizon, I can imagine the C-levels are trying to stem the
>> bleeding.
>>
>> So it doesn't surprise me if they look at their decreased book sales,
>> then look at the popularity of third-party Pathfinder book sales, and
>> a thought of 'hey, how about we tap into that market somehow' creeps
>> into their head. Which leads to ideas on how to force people onto the
>> Paizo marketplace, which leads to other ideas on how to restrict
>> developers from NOT using that marketplace, etc. etc.
> 
> It may be increasing as the WotC blunders, and the reaction of fans and 
> previously huge supporters have left 5e/2024/25/6e/One (to in the 
> darkness bind them.)
> 
>>
>> But at least Paizo backed down before things got too bad. Give them
>> that much, at least.
> 
> So has WotC, though they keep repeating their blunders.
> 
> WotC had another blunder recently which deserves it's own post, but not 
> going to bother.  D&D Beyond switching all spells and items to the 
> 2024-25 D&D ones and getting rid of the previous versions completely, 
> then were going to be using the copyright/IP to block putting them back 
> in as custom/homebrew. They backed down on that, said, no really we 
> weren't doing that, and said they'r now going to have the option to 
> choose the edition of spells ect. you want to use.
> 

It's because the same people still are in charge and they still think 
along the same lines, and they don't GET that people who are into 
roleplaying games are not into this who stuff. Because video gamers are, 
and aren't they the same?

(it's because they don't GET that there's a difference in the first place)