Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Instead scopes
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 63
Message-ID: <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vakogj$316hg$1@dont-email.me> <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com>
Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:21:00 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9fb74b7eaf394b712d9fd5478ce8fc36";
	logging-data="3708379"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19bKpVwzLajRzj9a/vUn6dLOEj0uBS4tgI="
User-Agent: tin/2.6.3-20231224 ("Banff") (Linux/6.9.11-200.fc40.x86_64 (x86_64))
Cancel-Lock: sha1:s44f2KvNJxnSjJZKhCW7Kt5/QiU=
Bytes: 4192

john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
> 
>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states.
>>>>
>>>>Other than the lack of software features,  the 200mhz bw for 350
>>>> dollars is intriguing. 
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>> 
>>> It sounds pretty good to me.
>>> 
>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf
>>> 
>>> What's missing?
>>> 
>>> I like the 500 uV/div.
>>
>>If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope
>>for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has
>>all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work
>>from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that
>>feels like relic next to those DHOs.
> 
> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz
> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz)
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0
> 
> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler.

I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :)

>>I don't have any relation to Rigol, just have DHO924S as a go-to scope on my
>>bench and DHO814 for use as an advanced multimeter wherever I need a
>>portable one. I like them and I can run them in a web browser if needed.
> 
> I bought the Siglent as a gift, and I was curious about it.
> 
>>
>>I do have an advanced LeCroy WR640Zi with all options for serious jobs -- it
>>is 40GS/s 4GHz bandwidth instrument with all features imaginable -- but I
>>rarely power it up. It makes a noise like a jet at takeoff (Rigol DHO is
>>very quite) and it is 8-bit so what you get on the screen looks ugly
>>comparing with 12-bit DHO. DHO924 covers 99% of real world debugging so
>>LeCroy is mostly gathering dust...
> 
> So is ours! It cost $50K.  It doesn't make much sense and there is
> basically no support. It doesn't make sense to them either.

Yep, all those features are nice but very rarely needed in the real life.

---
******************************************************************
*  KSI@home    KOI8 Net  < >  The impossible we do immediately.  *
*  Las Vegas   NV, USA   < >  Miracles require 24-hour notice.   *
******************************************************************