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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 11:08:53 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <vani2k$3h2ld$3@dont-email.me> References: <lp8rcjdl6k3nd4hdantq1lon8776dl6dno@4ax.com> <cccrcj1bpk6kiho89hljgu68is0o0tn6ra@4ax.com> <7knrcj5q82pse9ce8hjo458kkf0jfadh35@4ax.com> <h2vscjlvas4pdkj1clutgm2ehcli4drpe6@4ax.com> <tc7ucjl2or9ves52ik1ku4d4dl1055addu@4ax.com> <van784$3fmps$3@dont-email.me> <3l8ucj1jep6pd2hpgmsipkugff0t6ndcnc@4ax.com> <s59ucjl9cvlp2jnfupvh9rsgrqaa9cg9cu@4ax.com> <vanfd1$3h2ld$1@dont-email.me> <dahucjd4oecib20rcvvfvbrv5cvtl3d81n@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="391128a9098abdd886a139ee623c8167"; logging-data="3705517"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BFsYY6u3HPeLT/PA1blSB" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/srvg9DP2RP+jHulqLYrJp+5JQo= In-Reply-To: <dahucjd4oecib20rcvvfvbrv5cvtl3d81n@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2905 On 8/28/2024 11:00 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:23:13 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > >> On 8/28/2024 8:23 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other >>> peoples' money. >>> >>> Margaret Thatcher >> >> The entire wealth of the nation is $152 trillion. >> US government bonds and obligations are $142 trillion, or 93%. >> >> That time will come. And soon. > > The problem with this prediction of doom is that there seems to be > several ways to calculate national debt and GDP (gross domestic > product). Here's one calculation that claims the US is well past the > point where paying our debts is possible: > <https://www.usdebtclock.org> > > It's not just the US, but also that most other countries are > over-extended: > <https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html> > Which country will be the first to go under and which ones will remain > afloat the longest? > > More interesting is who does the US owe money? > <https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2024/08/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt> > 2/3 of the US national debt is held by the Federal Reserve. Is the > Federal Reserve going to foreclose on debts owed to themselves? > > I'm with Herb Stein, "Anything unsustainable will stop". How and when is why we have news reports for entertainment. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971