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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Subject: Re: on allowing "int a" definition everywhere
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:39:18 +0200
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On 28/08/2024 18:31, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>
>>> Not exactly.  There are things that can be done inside a
>>> statement-expression that are not available inside nested
>>> functions or lambdas.
>>
>> And you're not going to tell us what those things are.
> 
> Let me add something to my last response.  I think you're doing
> a disservice to the community by always explaining everything
> in great detail.  Sometimes, sure;  perhaps even mostly.  But
> not always.  People need to learn to think.  You must have heard
> the proverb about giving a man a fish versus teaching a man to
> fish.  You just keep doling out fish.  I want people to learn to
> think so they can fish for themselves.
> 

As someone who has learned a lot over the years from people in this 
group, I think /you/ are doing the disservice with your patronising 
attitude and your treatment of everyone else as though they were your 
first-year students trying to cheat on their homework.  And it is made 
hugely worse by your habit of posting a teaser then disappearing for a 
month or more before dragging up old threads that everyone else has put 
aside.

Remember, this is comp.lang.c - it is /not/ help.me.learn.to.learn.

Keith answers people's questions, and gives constructive help.  When 
people want to learn more and think deeper, he is happy to encourage 
that - questioning their assumptions or giving more information.  But I 
don't think Keith needs me defending him here - his reputation in this 
group is outstanding with pretty much every regular.

You are possibly the regular in this group with the most technical 
knowledge of C, its standards and its history.  But in term of helping 
people, you are frustratingly poor.  If your aim is to encourage people 
to think and learn for themselves, you are regularly a failure.  If your 
aim is to make people think you are a self-righteous prick, you have 
done a much better job.

> One difference between you and me is that I almost never respond
> to a posting of yours that is part of a conversation with someone
> else to complain about your answer.  And I don't engage in such
> behavior even though I think that what you're doing is worse than
> what I'm doing.  I'm fed up with your high and mighty attitude.
> 

The irony of that last sentence is incredible.  With your negligible 
level of self-awareness, you should give up programming and enter politics.