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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Facebook Account Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 95 Message-ID: <vaoa3r$3l430$1@dont-email.me> References: <9SnwO.358597$7Lh9.165340@fx12.iad> <v9tc3k$1v8v2$13@dont-email.me> <gouwO.122369$YCP4.38071@fx47.iad> <v9v3fm$2qglc$1@dont-email.me> <MzoxO.629098$89y.8970@fx18.iad> <va5ji6$5eg$4@dont-email.me> <RKtxO.80083$1Gdb.6157@fx04.iad> <va7g3h$etpc$3@dont-email.me> <va9k0g$rpi7$3@dont-email.me> <UF3zO.994909$MC82.200598@fx17.iad> <9dmpcjhlmnob1cgoagri7cpa5fjgkq9m0b@4ax.com> <oKJzO.52698$jia4.2041@fx18.iad> <9q4vcjhaj0nti7j1p7boasakb4q86vh6qr@4ax.com> <vao6qd$3jf9v$1@dont-email.me> <ra9vcjlqq3s4cfou45131sj1cafc266ir6@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:59:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="be56296f715a77509270147cb6de4209"; logging-data="3838048"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QAHW6vu0vuQsTrwODKSCM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vsfujGUd//5DMsPQ4MNsnHLfOv4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ra9vcjlqq3s4cfou45131sj1cafc266ir6@4ax.com> Bytes: 5459 On 8/28/2024 5:50 PM, Shadow wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:02:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > >> On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation. >>>>> >>>>> If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive". >>>>> If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be >>>>> reduced. >>>>> >>>>> Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice" >>>>> taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation). >>>>> Or do you think rich people should be exempt? >>>>> []'s >>>> >>>> Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive. >>> >>> Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's >>> 0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut >>> their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL. >>>> >>>> Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING? >>> >>> In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed". >>> Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax. >>> Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling >>> drugs) are tax free. >>> Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2 >>> million) hardly pay any tax at all. >>> Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens. >>> I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them >>> over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has >>> an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their >>> cellphones.... >>> []'s >>> >> >> Interesting, thank you. >> >> I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has >> grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might >> say diametrically different) administrations: > > "Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no > benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, > eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time. > Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road > sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a > month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup. > The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour > week. >> >> https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/ >> >> Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present >> administration, similar to the US regime effect: >> >> https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram >> >> Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker >> currency effect; shown in USD): >> >> https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL >> >> [click 'line chart' and 'exports'] >> >> So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so >> perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I >> don't know that. > > Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was > "privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over > 6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left > behind. Around 95% of our GNP. > But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and > our poverty is diminishing. > I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I > check them out on Linux tomorrow. > TY > []'s Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs standard definitions for comparison. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971