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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bart <bc@freeuk.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:21:43 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vaobe7$3lbp1$2@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <v9m4gd$14scu$1@dont-email.me> <20240815182717.189@kylheku.com> <v9npls$1fjus$1@dont-email.me> <v9t204$2dofg$1@dont-email.me> <va28pi$3dldm$1@dont-email.me> <va2ro9$3gd7v$1@dont-email.me> <va2vt0$3h3gj$1@dont-email.me> <va44rh$3p1l6$1@dont-email.me> <va45eq$3pkt9$1@dont-email.me> <va4aut$3q4g0$1@dont-email.me> <va4fbr$3qvij$1@dont-email.me> <va5108$3tmmd$1@dont-email.me> <va51ok$3tqr9$1@dont-email.me> <va5ec2$3vluh$1@dont-email.me> <va6q4g$c1a7$1@dont-email.me> <va6rpa$c6bg$1@dont-email.me> <va6se9$cb8e$1@dont-email.me> <20240826083330.00004760@gmail.com> <vaises$2k7o6$2@dont-email.me> <20240826155113.000005ba@gmail.com> <wwvo75eicla.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vak9k9$2ujrs$1@dont-email.me> <valgpu$34s18$1@dont-email.me> <vannkg$3ig72$1@dont-email.me> <vanrd8$3j0vv$1@dont-email.me> <vantnp$3j94i$1@dont-email.me> <vao9h0$3l470$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 01:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f25609d88f29f3eda9765667c5ab1831"; logging-data="3845921"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+trNVXI5jaRYy26xMBURzD" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IKkXNJovxRD4nuxNIhawxWFwj9c= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vao9h0$3l470$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2606 On 28/08/2024 23:49, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 20:27:53 +0100, Bart wrote: > >> The main problem isn't in changing the indentation of a block of code; >> it is in HAVING to do so because of poor language design. > > If you think the need for refactoring is something that can be solved by > “language design”, I’d like to hear how. The aim is to not NEED refactoring when you are playing around with different, short-term bits of code. Requiring letter-case that is exactly right plus indentation that is exactly right, plus requiring you to choose between spaces and tabs (plus requiring endless 'imports' to added for standard language features), is just a nuisance.