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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Instead scopes
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:46:54 GMT
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On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Aug 2024 09:32:58 -0700) it happened john larkin
<jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
><ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>
>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
>>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>>>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any
>>>>>>> good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a
>>>>>>> Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he
>>>>>>> likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Other than the lack of software features,  the 200mhz bw for 350
>>>>>> dollars is intriguing. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds pretty good to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's missing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the 500 uV/div.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope
>>>>for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has
>>>>all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work
>>>>from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that
>>>>feels like relic next to those DHOs.
>>> 
>>> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz
>>> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz)
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0
>>> 
>>> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler.
>>
>>I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :)
>
>At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have
>half a million dollars worth of sampling heads.
>
>The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but
>the old B+W screens photograph better.
>
>I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies.
>
>The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on
>transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR.
>
>It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be
>completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity.

oops!

Then what DO they know?