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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:23:19 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vapi6t$3u8ij$1@dont-email.me> References: <vakogj$316hg$1@dont-email.me> <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:23:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3f3cf5de51af26e990903a97ecb9bb49"; logging-data="4137555"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18vwOKKkIvgI24JtzihYXJ6KtqySLamwvE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2EKjk5LzERmWZmreAPq+rnVzvts= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240828-8, 29/8/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> Bytes: 4177 On 29/08/2024 2:32 am, john larkin wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn > <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: > >> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn >>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: >>> >>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid >>>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r >>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states. >>>>>> >>>>>> Other than the lack of software features, the 200mhz bw for 350 >>>>>> dollars is intriguing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> It sounds pretty good to me. >>>>> >>>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf >>>>> >>>>> What's missing? >>>>> >>>>> I like the 500 uV/div. >>>> >>>> If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope >>>> for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has >>>> all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work >>> >from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that >>>> feels like relic next to those DHOs. >>> >>> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz >>> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz) >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0 >>> >>> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler. >> >> I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :) > > At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have > half a million dollars worth of sampling heads. > > The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but > the old B+W screens photograph better. > > I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies. > > The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on > transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR. > > It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be > completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity. Or a least to be able to react to John Larkin's insultingly trivial questions in a way that leaves him thinking that. Maybe he didn't understand the answers. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney