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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Ben Bacarisse fails understand that deciders COMPUTE THE MAPPING
 FROM INPUTS --- I proved that I am correct and Mikko Ignored it
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:44:16 -0500
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On 8/29/2024 2:46 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-08-28 11:51:51 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 8/28/2024 2:37 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> This group is for discussions about the theory of computation and 
>>> related
>>> topics. Discussion about people is off-topic.
>>>
>>
>> Try to point to the tiniest lack of clarity in this fully
>> specified concrete example.
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>>    return;
>> }
>>
>> _DDD()
>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>> [00002183] c3         ret
>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>
>> HHH computes the mapping from DDD to behavior that never reaches
>> its "return" statement on the basis of the x86 emulation of DDD
>> by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language.
>>
>> For all the  years people said that this simulation is incorrect
>> never realizing that they were disagreeing with the semantics
>> of the x86 language.
>>
>> Now that I point this out all that I get for "rebuttal" is bluster
>> and double talk.
>>
>> The same thing applies to this more complex example that
>> is simply over-the-head of most reviewers:
>>
>> int DD()
>> {
>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>    return Halt_Status;
>> }
> 
> Nice to see that you don't disagree.
> But you should not use subject lines that are off-topic for the group.
> 

When a specific reviewer makes a specific mistake in
reviewing my work related to this group I must refer
to that specific reviewer's mistake to clear my name.

I could generalize it. No one person here besides myself
sufficiently understands the details of how a simulating
halt decider computes the mapping from an input finite
string to the behavior that this finite sting specifies.

I specifically referred to Ben because he got everything
else correctly. Most everyone else cannot even understand
that correct simulation is defined by HHH emulating DDD
according to the semantics of the x86 language.

Fred thinks the when DDD is emulated by HHH according to
the semantics of the x86 language and this causes an
emulated HHH to not halt then the emulation is wrong.

simlation

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer