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From: Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Phillip Johnson wiki
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 22:39:01 -0400
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RonO wrote:
> On 8/29/2024 2:26 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2024-08-29 01:16:08 +0000, RonO said:
>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson
>>>
>>> Earlier this month I noted that someone had remove the Johnson 
>>> capitulation quote from the Johnson wiki.  There seems to be no valid 
>>> reason for removing the quote, and Athel claimed that he had emailed 
>>> the editor that made the edit to see what was going on.  I guess 
>>> nothing has come of the request.
>>
>> No. I had a back-and-forth discussion with the editor in question, 
>> mainly consisting of me suggesting a wording that he would accept and 
>> refrain from editing it back to what it was. He objected to all of 
>> these, except the last, which he hasn't replied to. I thought I'd 
>> leave it a month and then fix it.
> 
> If you do not get this guys buy in, can he just remove it again?  What 
> were his reasons for removing a perfectly valid quote, and Johnson's 
> admission about the ID scam when Johnson never retracted what he had said.
> 
> In the previous thread I note other people using the quote including Ken 
> Miller in a public presentation, and I do not recall any blow back from 
> Johnson.
>

It's instructive to look at Laurence Moran's attempts to correct 
Wikipedia on the subject of junk DNA. A long-term editor/contributor 
(who is not a biologist/chemist/biochemist) to Wikipedia put up a ream 
of garbage on the topic and Larry rewrote it. The editor deleted Moran's 
work and put his own back up. They went around a few times but of course 
Larry's expertise meant nothing and the buffoon's seniority at Wikipedia 
meant everything.

If the person who changed the Johnson page is someone with an ax to 
grind and has been at Wikipedia for any length of time, it's probably 
useless to try to present anything (s)he doesn't like.

Chris