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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Instead scopes
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:17:14 +1000
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On 30/08/2024 4:59 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:23:19 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 29/08/2024 2:32 am, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
>>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
>>>>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>>>>>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other than the lack of software features,  the 200mhz bw for 350
>>>>>>>> dollars is intriguing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds pretty good to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's missing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the 500 uV/div.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope
>>>>>> for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has
>>>>>> all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work
>>>>> >from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that
>>>>>> feels like relic next to those DHOs.
>>>>>
>>>>> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz
>>>>> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0
>>>>>
>>>>> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler.
>>>>
>>>> I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :)
>>>
>>> At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have
>>> half a million dollars worth of sampling heads.
>>>
>>> The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but
>>> the old B+W screens photograph better.
>>>
>>> I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies.
>>>
>>> The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on
>>> transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR.
>>>
>>> It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be
>>> completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity.
>>
>> Or a least to be able to react to John Larkin's insultingly trivial
>> questions in a way that leaves him thinking that.
>>
>> Maybe he didn't understand the answers.
> 
> You're impossible to talk too. Your only motivation is to insult.

If your idea of a conversation is one where you get flattered nonstop, 
I'm not the ideal conversational partner.

Most people have lower expectations when it comes to uncritical 
flattery, and some of them can even earn just approbation.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney