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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Phillip Johnson wiki
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:50:27 +0200
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On 2024-08-30 02:39:01 +0000, Chris Thompson said:

> RonO wrote:
>> On 8/29/2024 2:26 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-29 01:16:08 +0000, RonO said:
>>> 
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson
>>>> 
>>>> Earlier this month I noted that someone had remove the Johnson 
>>>> capitulation quote from the Johnson wiki.  There seems to be no valid 
>>>> reason for removing the quote, and Athel claimed that he had emailed 
>>>> the editor that made the edit to see what was going on.  I guess 
>>>> nothing has come of the request.
>>> 
>>> No. I had a back-and-forth discussion with the editor in question, 
>>> mainly consisting of me suggesting a wording that he would accept and 
>>> refrain from editing it back to what it was. He objected to all of 
>>> these, except the last, which he hasn't replied to. I thought I'd leave 
>>> it a month and then fix it.
>> 
>> If you do not get this guys buy in, can he just remove it again?  What 
>> were his reasons for removing a perfectly valid quote, and Johnson's 
>> admission about the ID scam when Johnson never retracted what he had 
>> said.
>> 
>> In the previous thread I note other people using the quote including 
>> Ken Miller in a public presentation, and I do not recall any blow back 
>> from Johnson.
>> 
> 
> It's instructive to look at Laurence Moran's attempts to correct 
> Wikipedia on the subject of junk DNA. A long-term editor/contributor 
> (who is not a biologist/chemist/biochemist) to Wikipedia put up a ream 
> of garbage on the topic and Larry rewrote it. The editor deleted 
> Moran's work and put his own back up. They went around a few times but 
> of course Larry's expertise meant nothing and the buffoon's seniority 
> at Wikipedia meant everything.
> 
> If the person who changed the Johnson page is someone with an ax to 
> grind and has been at Wikipedia for any length of time, it's probably 
> useless to try to present anything (s)he doesn't like.

In his User Page, GuardianH describes himself as follows:

"I'm an American high school student from Massachusetts with a passion 
in history, philosophy, and law along with an additional interest 
pertaining to sociology and higher education. I write and edit 
primarily on topics concerning constitutional law and legal 
scholarship."

No obvious expertise in Intelligent Design, therefore, but he has been 
a very active editor, with more than 40000 contributions to Wikipedia. 
I'm not sure he has an axe to grind, but he's just stuck his heels in.

-- 
athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016