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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!nntp.terraraq.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Fossil record gaps not a major issue Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:43:58 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vasiau$ggel$2@dont-email.me> References: <var4q2$6gbg$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="66526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:LyL9KilWPCZZMQSHGrZKDSokuJU= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 3422622986F; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:44:00 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D08822978C for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:43:58 -0400 (EDT) id 77935872A8; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48CF57FC2B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:44:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mod-relay.zaccari.net 48CF57FC2B (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A8B15F833 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/6A8B15F833; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id EB857DC01A9; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:43:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:43:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+OY5lN6Z4oRsXXnBl5XcspLmZxQUGfB3w= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <var4q2$6gbg$1@dont-email.me> FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4176 On 8/29/2024 7:46 PM, Pro Plyd wrote: > > https://phys.org/news/2024-08-darwin-unjustified-fossil-gaps-major.html > > Darwin's fear was unjustified: Study suggests > fossil record gaps not a major issue > SNIP: The simulation described in the paper is not realistic and likely doesn't apply to terrestrial lifeforms. Their conclusions likely are not valid. Erosion is not the main reason that there are gaps in the fossil record. You need deposition to occur in order for the fossils to be created, and deposition has to occur in the correct soils. The greatest species diversity occurs in equatorial rain forests, but those forest soils dissolve bone. So you have to exist in a place that can produce fossils where deposition and not erosion is occurring. This means that not all species have the same chance of being preserved, and that their preservation is not going to be evenly distributed over the landscape. Gaps are not just due to patches of fossil deposits getting erroded away. Look at the whale example. We have a strip of coastline where coastal errosion and deposition were occurring from time to time, and some sediments contained fossils of animals that lived along that coast when those sediments were being deposited. It isn't a continuous record at any one place. Those sediments were uplifted by India crashing into Asia, and erosion has exposed some of the fossils. All the species that evolved along the rest of the coast line are not avaliable for study. Ron Okimoto