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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JAB <here@is.invalid> Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Subject: Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 21:37:25 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 14 Message-ID: <vatvl7$rlh7$1@dont-email.me> References: <vaghon$2598p$1@dont-email.me> <dc9ae946-a14a-386e-9c91-67a5ea8e96be@example.net> <eli$2408261405@qaz.wtf> <vaismh$2kaah$1@dont-email.me> <809712d9-bea1-a442-6c84-2ae61235cda3@example.net> <vak9ad$2usjt$1@dont-email.me> <fc734396-888a-b672-d286-376f3cca4f6d@example.net> <valq28$366ek$1@dont-email.me> <20240828192906.ff632b728d7849e0dfa9e1ae@127.0.0.1> <vanvh4$3jlf6$1@dont-email.me> <f251965a-5288-c244-15f3-6ee92f884e84@example.net> Reply-To: JAB <here@is.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 04:37:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b2bcad34930dc04cacaff7b03d3f159"; logging-data="906791"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/W2viDeqOgsIvSNgaOwIiE" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qTyim1ZzxmW+WZrmxS06sYlMC4U= Bytes: 1849 On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 23:22:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >No... that's the problem of qualia Increased/decreased temps can be measured, but no neural explantion:-) >That is true, and fairly trivial and well understood. .... >it is fairly easy to increaes blood flow to certain >parts of the body with relaxation and visualization exercises. RE: Qualia - subjective, conscious experience But, empirical observations (temp readings) confirm the "subjective, conscious experience"......hmm!