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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!.POSTED.panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail From: jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Five SFF Stories About Hell and Damnation Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 02:57:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: <vau0q5$396$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <va2893$cp0$1@reader1.panix.com> <vat9ea$k24v$2@dont-email.me> <ljfbdtF18ttU3@mid.individual.net> <ljfbrjF1eo6U1@mid.individual.net> Injection-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 02:57:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix2.panix.com:166.84.1.2"; logging-data="3366"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) In article <ljfbrjF1eo6U1@mid.individual.net>, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote: >In article <ljfbdtF18ttU3@mid.individual.net>, >Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote: >>In article <vat9ea$k24v$2@dont-email.me>, >>Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote: >>>On 8/27/24 8:58 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote: >>>> On 21/08/2024 21:03, Tony Nance wrote: >>>>> On 8/20/24 10:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote: >>>>>> Five SFF Stories About Hell and Damnation >>>>>> >>>>>> Hell gets a bad rap--it's certainly a great motivator for any number >>>>>> of plots and characters attempting to escape from the fiery flames >>>>>> of perdition! >>>>>> >>>>>> https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-about-hell-and-damnation/ >>>>> >>>>> Lots come to mind, but many of them are already mentioned in your >>>>> comments.[1] I’d forgotten about the Shaw, Anderson, and Myers[2], so >>>>> yay commenters! >>>>> >>>>> Tad Williams’ Happy Hour in Hell (the second of his Bobby Dollar >>>>> trilogy) was almost entirely set in Hell. >>>>> >>>>> Although my knee keeps jerking in the direction of Roger Zelazny, I >>>>> don’t think he fits. Hellrides? Yes. Hell Tanner? Hell Yes. And >>>>> Dilvish was banished there, too.[3] But I don’t think any of >Zelazny’s >>>>> works spent significant time in hell. >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> [1] The Banks, Pratchett, and Liz Williams for example. >>>>> [2] Or is that more properly “Myers Myers”? >>>>> [3] Well, he was turned to stone, and his soul was banished there. >>>> >>>> In Amber / Chaos, I think Merlin's brother >>>> keeps a suite of hells for the purpose of >>>> tormenting enemies, and he offers their use. >>>> But we don't visit. >>> >>>Aha - thanks. I do not remember the five Merlin books super well. At >>>the time, I was sorely disappointed that there wasn't more Corwin, and >>>so I kind of hastily raced through them looking for Corwin and some >>>resolutions. I should probably read them again. >>> >>>Tony >>> >> >>IIRC we put several scenes in Hell in _Hell On High_. I think I worked >>Maxwell's demons into it. > >Has anyone mentioned Anderson's _Operation Chaos_? It's kind of episodic >being a fix-up, but one of the episodes has the protags venturing into >Hell on a rescue mission for what reason I can't quite recall. To set up a Tom Lehrer joke. -- My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/ My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/ My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/ My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll