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From: jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
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Subject: Re: American War a dystopic novel
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 13:53:15 -0000 (UTC)
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In article <ljfqtjF3gbnU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>In article <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me>,
>Bobbie Sellers  <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>On 8/30/24 18:49, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <vat874$kerq$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Bobbie Sellers  <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/30/24 11:30, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 8/29/2024 11:52 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>>> I read this in May of 2017
>>>>>>    "American War"- set in a future of Global Warming and post American
>>>>>> Civil War II.  No Florida and the Southern Coast is depleted.
>>>>>>       The Big Bay* is in Central California.  I.e. the
>Central Valley
>>>>>> and San Joaquin Valley are flooded.  Only the high points of
>>>>>> the San Francisco Bay Area remain above water.
>>>>>>       A Free Southern State exists with a quarantine zone in South
>>>>>> Carolina.  Florida is gone. New Orleans is gone.
>>>>>>       A Mexican Protectorate extends past San Francisco and takes
>>>>>> up the Southern-Most tier of Western states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       The narrator of the tale of the female protagonist lives in
>>>>>> New Anchorage, Alaska where they might see frost on the
>>>>>> windows in  January, but it never snows.  Alaska is a Neutral
>>>>>> State
>>>>>> `    The author is one Omar El Akkad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       The ACW II takes place from 2074-2095 caused by the
>>>>>> Southern states unwillingness to abide by the ban on
>>>>>> Fossil Fuels finally enacted.  Florida is gone.
>>>>>>       A girl's father is murdered and a thirst for revenge
>>>>>> grows within her as the War goes on.  Horrendous acts
>>>>>> are done on each side and the protagonist does the
>>>>>> final horrendous act of the War, which kills the last
>>>>>> of her relatives but not intentionally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       It could be sub-titled Fall of the American Empire!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       bliss
>>>>>
>>>>> Tallahassee, Florida (the panhandle) is 203 feet above sea level.  Is
>>>>> that underwater ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>> 	Maybe an island or washed away or the underlying geological have
>>>> collapsed. but the Florida peninsula is gone on the map.
>>>> 	
>>> 
>>> There's rolling hills in Hernando county as well...
>>> 
>>> The description puts me in the mind of a certain Costner movie...
>>
>>	Well in this novel there is plenty of land but a lot of
>>productive land has been lost with the loss of the Southern mid-west.
>>a great big gulf where New Orleans used to be shortens the Mississippi
>>and some of its tributary rivers run right into that gulf.
>>
>>	The old USA is broken into self-interested small nations.
>>Except for the West Coast which has been reclaimed by Mexico. The
>>author may have taken some liberties in disregarding the elevations
>>of certain portions of the nation but it was a good read at the time.
>>
>>And is pretty hard science that there is no way to defend the land
>>from the rising water. Exactly how fast it will happen is the main
>>dispute. I live in California where we have earthquakes and
>
>The Dutch might dispute that..
>
>Not sure this one would be for me, sounds a bit too bleak.
>
>Trying to think of other SF examples of sea rise, but all that's coming
>to mind (other than the sinking of Atlantis) right now is the XKCD "Time"
>sequence.


The backstory of Davy has nuclear war, plague, and enough sea level
rise to turn New England into an island. That requires more water than
appears to be available. 

A Fond Farewell to Dying turned India into an island, which requires 
at least 200 metres of sea level rise. That submerges a lot of easter
NA, and bisects Australia as well. Not to mention it would be possible
to canoe much of the Silk Road. 
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