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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 11:31:51 -0400
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On 8/30/2024 11:10 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:01:11 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/30/2024 1:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Thu Aug 29 11:50:12 2024 John B.  wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:17:48 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:02:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then perhaps you missed the part where he thought it funny that I could learn science by reading out three entire non-fiction sections of Oakland libraries?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think your claim is hilarious:
>>>>> 06/07/2022
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/QNPNSofg064/m/Xaamy15iBQAJ>
>>>>> "I would warrant that I've read more than 20 times more books than you
>>>>> have. I read out three public libraries, the military library and all
>>>>> of the books I used to gain the knowledge to become an engineer."
>>>>>
>>>>> How did the "three public libraries" magically morph into "three
>>>>> entire non-fiction sections of Oakland libraries"?  Also, what
>>>>> happened to the military library you claim to have "read out" whatever
>>>>> that means?  Tom, you really should write down your lies so that you
>>>>> don't screw up this badly trying to remember them.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... from a point of NEVER working in the Telephone industry he denies that "light line" means fiber optics to installers.
>>>>>
>>>>> 12/23/2021
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_1eEehgsDD0/m/cgRIn7ofDQAJ>
>>>>> "Do you think that you're impressing people using the term "fiber
>>>>> optics" when the common term is light lines and even AT&T is using
>>>>> it?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me where AT&T is using the term "light lines" to refer to fiber
>>>>> optical cable used for communications (not for decorative
>>>>> illumination).
>>>>>
>>>>>> he has plainly never used a good oscilloscope so he doesn't know why you would use pulse width modulation to measure wire length.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've been asked to explain how to use PWM to "test cables" many
>>>>> times.  Nobody asked about measuring wire length.
>>>>> 12/23/2021
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_1eEehgsDD0/m/t0uJbEMbDQAJ>
>>>>> "I'm not explaining anything to someone so stupid that they don't know
>>>>> why you use pulse width modulation to measure loses due to line shorts
>>>>> which is the failure mode of coax."
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_1eEehgsDD0/m/bIkgkvkKDQAJ>
>>>>> "Using PWM to test extremely long cables is common practice."
>>>>
>>>> Re Tommy's "military library". The air force has several types of
>>>> Libraries. (1) The public library for readers just like your home town
>>>> has. (2) A library of regulations that covers every thing on how to
>>>> confirm how many eat supper in the Mess hall to when may a dentist
>>>> insist in pulling a tooth. and then there is (3) the vast technical
>>>> library that tells you every thing you need to know about any
>>>> technical (airplane, truck, whatever, even airport runways) device
>>>> that you need fir help in repairing installing removing) any device in
>>>> the inventory - I once found a reference for the size bolts to use in
>>>> a missile retaining device on a B-52 :-)
>>>>
>>>> So Tommy's claim to have read the military library is akin to saying
>>>> that the moon really, truly, IS blue cheese
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> John B.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proving that John never set foot in a military library. That must be how he got his diaphonous A&P. For the brightest apprintice that is two years and John is hardly bright or they wouldn't have made him crew chief which was nothing more than paperwork.
>>
>> Are you being purposefully obtuse? Every AFB has a machine
>> shop, as do Navy ships. Some are bare bones, some are world
>> class machining facilities, Tinker AFB for example:
>>
>> https://www.tinker.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/388818/parts-producers-tinkers-machine-shops-are-invaluable/
>>
>> The AFB just down the road, Truax (across the highway from
>> FedEx dropoff), has a very nice shop. Supports F16 and F35
>> which pass over most afternoons to Camp McCoy bomb range.
> 
> I'll tell  you a secret. Probably the most common job that a
> Machinist, in the Air Force, does is remove "bad" screws. An airplane
> is full of panels that need to be removed to get at something that
> needs repair and all these panels are held on by "screws", actually
> "Machine Screws".  ands, as a general statement, are removed by
> electrical/electronic craftsmen in order to do their work.
> 
> Now electrical/electronics craftsmen, in the Air Force are normally
> the product of  a "Tech School" that the Air Force uses to turn some
> blundering idiot right off the street into a competent craftsman who
> can be of  benefit to the A.F.'s mission.
> 
> (there are some "tech" schools, although not electronic, that  are 2
> year, or longer in duration.)
> 
> But in spite of all this training the A.F., for some reason, neglects.
> perhaps the most common task there E/E people do. Removing screws so
> that they can get to the "Gizmo" that has to be replaced. The use of a
> screwdriver, and thusly in addition to the electric gizmo the project
> turns into a fix all the damaged screws so the panel can be replaced
> and someone has to go out in the wind and the cold to rectify the  "F-
> - k Ups". And that is the Machinist :-)

I wonder if the adoption of Torx has reduced that problem.

;-)  Metric or U.S. sized Torx.   ;-)

-- 
- Frank Krygowski