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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Pathological self-reference changes the semantics of the same
 finite string.
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 10:33:01 -0500
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On 8/31/2024 10:24 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 31.aug.2024 om 14:26 schreef olcott:
>> On 8/30/2024 8:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-30 12:57:49 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 8/30/2024 3:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-08-29 17:53:44 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just proved that the basic notion of finite strings
>>>>>> having unique meanings independently of their context
>>>>>> is incorrect.
>>>>>
>>>>> The context is the halting problem.
>>>>
>>>> The behavior of
>>>> the directly executed DDD and executed HHH
>>>> is different from the behavior of
>>>> the emulated DDD and the emulated HHH
>>>
>>> The correct behaviour is the computation that the user wants to
>>> ask about. If the input string specifies a different behaviour
>>> then the input string is worng, not the behaviour.
>>>
>>
>> int sum(int x, int y) { return x + y; }
>> And in the exact same way Bill wants to get the
>> sum of 5+6 from sum(3,2).
>>
>> HHH must use its actual input as its basis
>> and it not allowed to use anything else.
> 
> HHH is given a finite string of a halting program.

ARE YOU FREAKING BRAIN DEAD?

HALTING ONLY MEANS REACHING A FINAL HALT STATE
AND DDD EMULATED BY HHH CANNOT POSSIBLY DO THIS.

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

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