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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: American War a dystopic novel Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 21:54:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vavvtj$153cs$1@dont-email.me> References: <varj6s$c1sq$1@dont-email.me> <vat33f$jl6q$4@dont-email.me> <vatj3g$m870$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 22:54:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8f0bee2749383225c1f9618c6190f4f2"; logging-data="1215900"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+SSkt6hE7YOqMwvGOlJrg8YE+MjvyApss=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gZTuHclKu+E35u7Y5rk9hsKntts= In-Reply-To: <vatj3g$m870$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3379 On 31/08/2024 00:03, William Hyde wrote: > Lynn McGuire wrote: >> On 8/29/2024 11:52 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> I read this in May of 2017 >>> "American War"- set in a future of Global Warming and post American >>> Civil War II. No Florida and the Southern Coast is depleted. >>> The Big Bay* is in Central California. I.e. the Central Valley >>> and San Joaquin Valley are flooded. Only the high points of >>> the San Francisco Bay Area remain above water. >>> A Free Southern State exists with a quarantine zone in South >>> Carolina. Florida is gone. New Orleans is gone. >>> A Mexican Protectorate extends past San Francisco and takes >>> up the Southern-Most tier of Western states. >>> >>> The narrator of the tale of the female protagonist lives in >>> New Anchorage, Alaska where they might see frost on the >>> windows in January, but it never snows. Alaska is a Neutral >>> State >>> ` The author is one Omar El Akkad. >>> >>> The ACW II takes place from 2074-2095 caused by the >>> Southern states unwillingness to abide by the ban on >>> Fossil Fuels finally enacted. Florida is gone. >>> A girl's father is murdered and a thirst for revenge >>> grows within her as the War goes on. Horrendous acts >>> are done on each side and the protagonist does the >>> final horrendous act of the War, which kills the last >>> of her relatives but not intentionally. >>> >>> It could be sub-titled Fall of the American Empire! >>> >>> bliss >> >> Tallahassee, Florida (the panhandle) is 203 feet above sea level. Is >> that underwater ? > > Maximum elevation 266, minimum 7, average 118. > > I believe we discussed this some time ago. Even if all the ice sheets > go, together with the geoid's adjustment to the lack of the Antarctic > ice sheet's gravity, a fragment of Florida would still exist. Looks > like Tallahassee would survive as a couple of small islands. Which seems > to be what the novel says. > > Such melting will not occur by 2075, but we allow far greater > distortions of science for a good story. > > Akkad is not principally an SF writer. Warm water rises.