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On 8/31/24 14:17, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
> On 31-Aug-24 16:36, x wrote:
>> On 8/28/24 18:16, RonO wrote:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson
>>>
>>> Earlier this month I noted that someone had remove the Johnson 
>>> capitulation quote from the Johnson wiki.  There seems to be no valid 
>>> reason for removing the quote, and Athel claimed that he had emailed 
>>> the editor that made the edit to see what was going on.  I guess 
>>> nothing has come of the request.
>>>
>>> The quote actually brings closure to the entire wiki entry of which a 
>>> major part is about Johnson's participation in the intelligent design 
>>> creationist scam.
>>>
>>> There is absolutely no doubt that Phillip Johnson wanted ID taught in 
>>> the public schools.  He had made it part of his Wedge strategy.  It 
>>> was one of the 5 years goals listed in the Wedge document, but 20/20 
>>> hindsight indicates that Johnson never fully understood the science, 
>>> and did not understand that the ID perps never had any legitimate ID 
>>> science worth teaching in the public schools.
>>>
>>> The Phillip Johnson wiki has the claim that Johnson did not 
>>> understand scientific reasoning "In 1993 the ASA's Perspectives on 
>>> Science and Christian Faith published a review of Darwin on Trial by 
>>> Nancey Murphy, an associate professor of Christian philosophy at 
>>> Fuller Theological Seminary, who described Johnson's arguments as 
>>> "dogmatic and unconvincing", primarily because "he does not 
>>> adequately understand scientific reasoning.""  Johnson had been 
>>> convinced by the other ID perps that the ID science existed, and 
>>> could be taught in the public schools.
>>>
>>> Johnson got others involved in the ID scam.  Most notably then 
>>> Senator Santorum.  Johnson supposedly wrote the draft of the IDiotic 
>>> "amendment" to the no child left behind legislation that was 
>>> submitted by Santorum and ended up in the appendix of that 
>>> legislation.  Both Santorum and Johnson claimed that the inclusion of 
>>> the "amendment" supported teaching intelligent design in the public 
>>> schools.
>>>
>>> By 2002 most of the other ID perps at the Discovery Institute likely 
>>> understood that they had nothing worth teaching as ID science in the 
>>> public schools, so when Ohio hit the fan and the ID perps were 
>>> invited to give their dog and pony show to the Ohio State School 
>>> board the ID perps decided to start running a bait and switch scam 
>>> where they would just use ID as bait, but only give the rubes an 
>>> obfuscation and denial swtich scam that the ID perps would tell the 
>>> creationist rubes had nothing to do with ID.  It does not look like 
>>> the ID perps bothered to inform Santorum and Johnson of what they 
>>> planned to do because both Johnson and Santorum came out in support 
>>> of teaching ID in the public schools in Ohio before the bait and 
>>> switch went down.
>>>
>>> Johnson put up the Santorum editorial on his ARN blog as the bait and 
>>> switch was going down in Ohio.  There is no reason why Johnson would 
>>> hang Santorum, out to dry like that if he knew that the bait and 
>>> switch scam was going to start to go down, and no reason for Santorum 
>>> to have written the opinion piece if he knew that the bait and switch 
>>> was going down.
>>>
>>> https://www.arn.org/docs/ohio/washtimes_santorum031402.htm
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> "I hate your opinions, but I would die to defend your right to express
>>> them." This famous quote by the 18th-century philosopher Voltaire
>>> applies to the debate currently raging in Ohio. The Board of Education
>>> is discussing whether to include alternate theories of evolution in the
>>> classroom. Some board members however, are opposed to Voltaire's defense
>>> of rational inquiry and intellectual tolerance. They are seeking to
>>> prohibit different theories other than Darwinism, from being taught to
>>> students. This threatens freedom of thought and academic excellence.
>>>
>>> Today, the Board of Education will discuss a proposal to insert
>>> "intelligent design" alongside evolution in the state's new teaching
>>> standards.
>>> END QUOTE:
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> At the beginning of the year, President Bush signed into law the "No
>>> Child Left Behind" bill. The new law includes a science education
>>> provision where Congress states that "where topics are taught that may
>>> generate controversy (such as biological evolution), the curriculum
>>> should help students to understand the full range of scientific views
>>> that exist." If the Education Board of Ohio does not include intelligent
>>> design in the new teaching standards, many students will be denied a
>>> first-rate science education. Many will be left behind.
>>>
>>> Rick Santorum is a Republican member of the United States Senate from
>>> Pennsylvania.
>>>
>>> © 2002 News World Communications. All rights reserved. International
>>> copyright secured.
>>> File Date: 3.14.02
>>> END QUOTE:
>>>
>>> So neither Santorum nor Johnson likely knew of the strategy shift for 
>>> the ID scam.  After Ohio 2002 the ID perps only used the teach ID 
>>> scam as bait, and never delivered any ID science to any creationist 
>>> rubes that wanted to teach it.
>>>
>>> You could still download the teach ID scam booklet from a Discovery 
>>> Institute web site when Dover hit the fan, but the bait and switch 
>>> had gone down in every case for the previous 3 years after Ohio.
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20040921022045/http://www.discovery.org/ 
>>> scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=58
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> 9. Conclusion
>>>       Local school boards and state education officials are 
>>> frequently pressured to avoid teaching the controversy regarding 
>>> biological origins. Indeed, many groups, such as the National Academy 
>>> of Sciences, go so far as to deny the existence of any genuine 
>>> scientific controversy about the issue.(162) Nevertheless, teachers 
>>> should be reassured that they have the right to expose their students 
>>> to the problems as well as the appeal of Darwinian theory. Moreover, 
>>> as the previous discussion demonstrates, school boards have the 
>>> authority to permit, and even encourage, teaching about design theory 
>>> as an alternative to Darwinian evolution--and this includes the use 
>>> of textbooks such as Of Pandas and People that present evidence for 
>>> the theory of intelligent design.
>>>
>>>       The controlling legal authority, the Supreme Court's decision 
>>> in Edwards v. Aguillard, explicitly permits the inclusion of 
>>> alternatives to Darwinian evolution so long as those alternatives are 
>>> based on scientific evidence and not motivated by strictly religious 
>>> concerns. Since design theory is based on scientific evidence rather 
>>> than religious assumptions, it clearly meets this test. Including 
>>> discussions of design in the science curriculum thus serves an 
>>> important goal of making education inclusive, rather than 
>>> exclusionary. In addition, it provides students with an important 
>>> demonstration of the best way for them as future scientists and 
>>> citizens to resolve scientific controversies--by a careful and fair- 
>>> minded examination of the evidence.
>>> END QUOTE:
>>>
>>> For some reason even though the bait and switch had gone down in 
>>> every instance for 3 years both Johnson and then Senator Santorum 
>>> supported the Dover School boards efforts to teach ID in the Dover 
>>> public schools in 2005.  Santorum was eventually clued in and had to 
>>> flip flop on the issue during his campaign for reelection.  As sad as 
>>> it may seem some of his republican opponents in the primary 
>>> questioned his religious convictions due changing his mind about 
>>> teaching intelligent design in the Pennsylvania public schools.  
>>> Santorum was not reelected, and when he ran for president he no 
>>> longer claimed to support intelligent design, but instead claimed to 
>>> support creationism.  It would take some willful ignorance of what 
>>> the ID perps were doing by running the bait and switch, but the ID 
>>> perps still called the switch scam "Teach the Controversy" and if you 
>>> look at the old propaganda produced by the Discovery Institute 
>>> teaching ID was part of the controversy that they wanted to teach.  
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