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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: American War a dystopic novel Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:30:02 -0700 Organization: none at all Lines: 60 Message-ID: <vb05ha$15qqb$2@dont-email.me> References: <varj6s$c1sq$1@dont-email.me> <vat874$kerq$1@dont-email.me> <ljfb5cF18ttU2@mid.individual.net> <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me> <ljfqtjF3gbnU1@mid.individual.net> <vb0197$15cer$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 00:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1126171981928e95f54474bf7a9ca290"; logging-data="1239883"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Hrkyj/jrcPbWjfIzpxb/N" User-Agent: Betterbird (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wK5pDRlkMXT0PXDLUGQD+AQBA18= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vb0197$15cer$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3770 On 8/31/24 14:17, Robert Carnegie wrote: > On 31/08/2024 07:18, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> In article <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me>, >> Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >>> On 8/30/24 18:49, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> And is pretty hard >>> science that there is no way to defend the land >>> from the rising water. Exactly how fast it will happen is the main >>> dispute. I live in California where we have earthquakes and >> >> The Dutch might dispute that.. > > Let's table that point. On the other hand: Venice. > >> Not sure this one would be for me, sounds a bit too bleak. >> >> Trying to think of other SF examples of sea rise, but all that's coming >> to mind (other than the sinking of Atlantis) right now is the XKCD "Time" >> sequence. > > John Wyndham, _The Kraken Wakes_ (sea people are angry) > > Stephen Baxter, _Flood_, _Ark_ (similar) > > J. G. Ballard, _The Drowned World_ (1962) > > Richard Jefferies, _After London_ (1885) > > Ken McLeod, _The Cassini Division_, I think contains > a scene, which certainly is in something, of flying > above London and observing a line of little points > sticking just above the water level. This is the top > of the Thames Flood Barrier. > <https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/thames-flood-barrier-woolwich-10386> > > I think the sea had risen in the film of > _Johnny Mnemonic_. It definitely had in > Stephen Spielberg's _A.I._. And on a lesser > scale in _Evan Almighty_. The Great Bay: Chronicles of the Collapse by Dale Pendell Pendell is not satisfied with rising water only but predicts plagues as well. This goes into the distant future with barely a hope for civilization of a sort to continue. Evacuees from Los Angeles head North and in Northern California once more the Sacramento-San Joaquin valleys are flooded which result in the Great Bay. Communities of scholar-mechanics hang on for a long time as the flood continues taking out San Francisco eventually and in the long years covering the site with a deep layer of sedimentation. But this only covers the West Coast of North America. We have no idea what is going on elsewhere apart from notable disasters. I do not know how long ago I read this as my older files were lost recently. I hope to get up to more current reading in the near future but... bliss -- b l i s s - S F 4 e v e r at D S L E x t r e m e dot com