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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me> References: <vakogj$316hg$1@dont-email.me> <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vap20i$1s5cl$1@solani.org> <8dv0djhj73b0ejudpkahnojgjk30i9rrbv@4ax.com> <je01dj177m9p0q25en4k2jm8u0bsj07t2j@4ax.com> <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me> <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 09:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="59b9f3d1b956b02e9ff8653ca02a0cfb"; logging-data="1504555"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QLmQUOExYaOZGMhIAl1wHNoN7NdK5ass=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UXleR7/h/6TrHupTUdlU9PoROio= In-Reply-To: <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240831-6, 31/8/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 2892 On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>: > >> It's lot easier and quicker to bread-board a circuit in LTSpice than it >> is to wire up a test circuit, but what that means is that you need to >> make fewer real circuits and they are a lot more likely to work when tested. >> >> That, on it's own, is enough to explain why labs look different today >> than they did in the dark ages. > > All it explains is boeings falling apart and astronuts ending up stuck at the ISS > and no moonlanding from the US, not even a probe. > Slimulations are _not_ realty and never will be. But they can capture useful parts of reality, if you know what you are doing. John Larkin's simulated inductors tend not to have any parallel capacitance. > mathematical bullshit much of the time. It does happen. You do have to know what to look out for. > That is why we are stuck with Albert onestone crap and wrong cosmological models > that even a 10 year old can see are wrong. Ten year-old don't usually know all that much, and quite a lot of perfectly correct ideas look wrong to them, as they do to you, for much the same reasons. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney